The Physics of 911

That's what I was trying to say, but he called me a troll!!

The fact is that the upper block passed through the lower core structure as if it wasn't there. Your problem is to explain that. You haven't done so yet. And now you're turning into a goofball, presumably to avoid trying to explain how a falling object collides with a stationary object of the same composition, and somehow passes through that stationary object as if it wasn't there. This video confirms that:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGAofwkAOlo
30 second mark.

So whether you know it or not, you must believe that the lower core structure no longer possessed physicality, which allowed the upper block to drop through it as if it wasn't there. It's okay if that's what you believe.

I already explained that Glennn,

Clearly there was extraterrestrial technology involved... maybe extraterrestrial ghosts.

Looks like the structure failed. It's not like the world trade center buildings were solid blocks of concrete, there is a LOT of open space in those buildings. The simple explanation is the solid bits moved into the empty bits as the structure failed around were the plane hit.

Well, considering your lack of alternatives and your silence on the matter, I'd go with that, too . . . if I were you.

It could be an act of God. Or the devil... Or aliens. But it could not possibly be a human feat because humans don't know how to instantly "neutralize" matter yet.

Do you know of a human explanation, per chance? :-)

That's funny Olivier. I think the matter transmorgaphier is the best explanation they've got (although I also liked Comlok's nano-termites).

You're pushing the idea that when the upper block started to descend and contacted with the lower block, the lower block just gave way and began falling at the same rate as the upper block. But we know that that's impossible. And that's why you're inclined to joke instead of explain the mechanism by which such an impossibility could occur.

And this is to say nothing of the fact that the more damaged upper block would have been equally crushed as it met with the lower intact core. First of all, the lateral ejection of steel and concrete reduces the mass. Plus, the force of material ejection must be accounted for. Also, the pulverization of said steel and concrete is yet another energy sink. But in your mind, there was enough energy left over to cause a virtually freefall descent. Not even a jolt was observed as the antenna descended. Where did the energy to accomplish all that come from?

And here's the video that you, for reasons known by everyone, decided to call grainy. It's not grainy; you just need it to be. Would you like to retract your statement calling it grainy?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGAofwkAOlo
30 second mark.

If you are going to respond to this post with more jokes, I will repeat my questions as often as necessary.

Where did I push that idea? You are putting words into my mouth.

There are all sorts of things that might have happened.

1) What you are calling the lower block may have already been falling by the time the upper block was falling.

2) The connection of the lower block may have already been weakened enough that it didn't take much energy to detach it.

3) The energy of the upper block may have been high enough that the collision wasn't noticed.

4) The positioning of the video you are relying upon might be masking something.

5) You may be misinterpreting the orientation of the blocks, or the video, or the science.

6) The Extra-terrestrials may have already "neutralized" the lower block as a side effect of beaming their outpost to safety on a waiting mother ship.

7) Or ghosts.

Or ....

8) Thousands of pounds of military grade secret thermite may have been put by hundreds of secret agents onto the pillars of the buildings months in advance, along with holographic projectors and a super advance sound projection system in order to project twin jet airliners onto the buildings in a way convincing enough to fool several hundred onlookers.

All of this was done in secret along with the cooperation of air traffic controller (or hackers who were good enough to fool them), and none of the blew the whistle (any one of them could have ruined the whole plan).

And all of this grand plan was pulled off without a hitch... except for one thing... they forget to adjust the speed of one ******* antenna on a YouTube video.

But then again, not even a vast military conspiracy run by the government can be completely perfect.

Of all of those theories.... I think the extraterrestrials are the most compelling.

I agree...Aliens.

Makes a better movie too.

These boys are in circle jerk, Glenn.

Not sure why you'd bother with them.

The fact that the antenna dropped with the upper block, indicates clearly that not some, but all of the massive internal core steel columns were not just deformed by heat, but severed completely. All of them. Inches thick massive steel columns; all severed. By an aluminium tube full of kerosene.

That's some test of physics law right about there.

I already told you. You believe that when the upper block started to descend and contacted with the lower block, the lower block just gave way and began falling at the same rate as the upper block. But we know that that's impossible, which is why you continue to fail to explain the mechanism by which such an impossibility could occur.

You also believe that bringing up thermite somehow is an answer to the above. But it isn't. I've never mentioned thermite. So . . .

Also, the video is clear, which is why you've decided to include it in your repertoire of inanity, which is better than calling it grainy, since anyone can see that it's not.

So, the more damaged upper block would have been equally crushed as it met with the lower intact core. Also, the lateral ejection of steel and concrete reduces the mass, and the force of material-ejection must be accounted for, too. Plus, the pulverization of said steel and concrete is yet another energy sink. But in your mind, there was still enough energy left over to cause a virtually freefall descent through the course of most resistance. Not even a jolt was observed as the antenna descended at an accelerated. Where did the energy to accomplish all that come from?

And here's the video that you, for reasons known by everyone, decided to call grainy. It's not grainy; you just needed it to be. Would you like to retract your statement calling it grainy?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGAofwkAOlo
30 second mark.

You are being ridiculous. I never said that.

You "told me" what I believe... heck, if you are going to make stuff up about Physics, that's one thing. In my last post I gave you 8 possible explanations, from you simply misunderstanding Physics... to extraterrestrial matter neutralizers... to government agents planting super secret military grade thermite. But if you are going to make up stuff about what I believe, aren't you really just arguing with yourself then?

I get the 9/11 stuff, but your belief that you can read the minds of other people (over the internet no less) is just as crazy. (Although, maybe you are wasting your mind reading talent on me. Focus your energy on George W. Bush and you might get somewhere.)

Let's look at those, and go from there.

So you're saying that the entire lower part of the Tower was already falling when the upper block began its descent. Did you know that the core of the Tower was a continuous, connected vertical structure with cross-bracing? So explain how the whole of the Tower below the impact zone began falling.

Again, explain how the continuous core structure below the impact zone can become "detached."

This is a repeat of the idea that the upper block passed through the lower block as if it wasn't there. That's ridiculous, and you know it. The lateral ejection of steel and concrete reduces the mass which is required for what you suggest. Plus, the force of material ejection must be accounted for. Also, the pulverization of said steel and concrete is yet another energy sink. So where did the energy to accomplish all that come from? Not even a jolt was observed as the antenna descended.

Sure, we wouldn't want to believe our lying eyes, now would we. Explain what you mean by "masking something." Was the video too old and grainy?

The orientation of the blocks? Well don't be so closed-mouthed about it. Explain what you mean, and we'll look at it.

Well, as any enthomologist will tell you, many termite colonies around the world have been radicalized by Al Qaeda, so it's possible that they decided to help terrorists bring down the twin towers. But ants remain on our side.

You kind of remind me of my wife. She will comment and question when she already has her mind made up and until I answer in the specific way she wants she just keeps rephrasing and requestioning. She doesn't want to know what I think, she just wants me to say what she wants to hear.

So, Glennn, what do you want us to say to satisfy you?

Maybe you rushed into things. Foresight is the key. At any rate, it's little late for you to be complaining about her now. You'll learn.

Yes, there's no denying the fact that that's a simple explanation. Did your wife tell you that that's a good explanation. If so, you might want to think about reassessing your choice.

I don't want or need you to say anything. So far, you've said nothing, and I'm okay with that if you are.

I guess you missed the point of my post, which was to insult your inability to listen to what others are saying. It's clear from your round and round posts in this thread that you simply want to listen to yourself talk.

This thread was sort of funny with all the conspiracy shenanigans, but, all good things must come to an end. Fortunately the ignore feature is alive and well.

No, I didn't miss your point at all. Your wife is not your intellectual equal. What I think you don't get is that she is not your intellectual equal, but not in the way that you think.

Anyway, you haven't addressed any point being made. All you've said is that the solid bits moved into the empty bits as the structure failed around where the plane hit. I know that in your mind, that explains everything. But it doesn't. The more damaged upper block would have been equally crushed as it met with the lower intact core. Also, the lateral ejection of steel and concrete reduces the mass, and the force of material-ejection must be accounted for, too. Plus, the pulverization of said steel and concrete is yet another energy sink. But in your mind, there was still enough energy left over to cause a virtually freefall descent through the course of most resistance. Not even a jolt was observed as the antenna descended at an accelerated. Where did the energy to accomplish all that come from?

Now if you believe that you or anyone else has answered that question, please repeat it just for the sake of clarity.

You're just another proponent of the idea that a structure can pass through another structure of the same composition as if it wasn't there.

Why would you expect others to explain something that you can't explain?