New York Times endorses Kerry.

In the summer of 2002, after I had written an article in Esquire that the White House didn't like about Bush's former communications director, Karen Hughes, I had a meeting with a senior adviser to Bush. He expressed the White House's displeasure, and then he told me something that at the time I didn't fully comprehend -- but which I now believe gets to the very heart of the Bush presidency.

The aide said that guys like me were ''in what we call the reality-based community,'' which he defined as people who ''believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality.'' I nodded and murmured something about enlightenment principles and empiricism. He cut me off. ''That's not the way the world really works anymore,'' he continued. ''We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality -- judiciously, as you will -- we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors . . . and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.''

If one read the front page of the Times even superficially over the past week this endorsement could have been predicted. In a series of articles the Times has presented a broad and disturbing picture of incompetence and in MHO incipient disaster if a second Bush term is allowed.

There is no denying that this race is mainly about Mr. Bush's disastrous tenure. Nearly four years ago, after the Supreme Court awarded him the presidency,

John Ashcroft, a favorite of the far right with a history of insensitivity to civil liberties,

He moved quickly to implement a far-reaching anti-choice agenda including censorship of government Web sites and a clampdown on embryonic stem cell research.

He also made tax cuts a higher priority than doing what was needed for America's security;

a Nixonian obsession with secrecy, disrespect for civil liberties and inept management.

Mr. Ashcroft appeared on TV time and again to announce sensational arrests of people who turned out to be either innocent, harmless braggarts or extremely low-level sympathizers of Osama bin Laden who, while perhaps wishing to do something terrible, lacked the means.

Like the tax cuts, Mr. Bush's obsession with Saddam Hussein seemed closer to zealotry than mere policy.

If he wins re-election, domestic and foreign financial markets will know the fiscal recklessness will continue. Along with record trade imbalances, that increases the chances of a financial crisis, like an uncontrolled decline of the dollar, and higher long-term interest rates.

The Bush White House has always given us the worst aspects of the American right without any of the advantages. We get the radical goals but not the efficient management

the administration has managed to so strain the resources of our armed forces that the nation is unprepared to respond to a crisis anywhere else in the world.

Mr. Kerry has the capacity to do far, far better.

This is nothing more than 2-pages of anti-Bush propaganda. Hardly worth the advertising Frank has been doing in so many threads.

Let's look at the lies...

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There is no denying that this race is mainly about Mr. Bush's disastrous tenure. Nearly four years ago, after the Supreme Court awarded him the presidency,

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John Ashcroft, a favorite of the far right with a history of insensitivity to civil liberties,

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He moved quickly to implement a far-reaching anti-choice agenda including censorship of government Web sites and a clampdown on embryonic stem cell research.

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He also made tax cuts a higher priority than doing what was needed for America's security;

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a Nixonian obsession with secrecy, disrespect for civil liberties and inept management.

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Mr. Ashcroft appeared on TV time and again to announce sensational arrests of people who turned out to be either innocent, harmless braggarts or extremely low-level sympathizers of Osama bin Laden who, while perhaps wishing to do something terrible, lacked the means.

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Like the tax cuts, Mr. Bush's obsession with Saddam Hussein seemed closer to zealotry than mere policy.

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If he wins re-election, domestic and foreign financial markets will know the fiscal recklessness will continue. Along with record trade imbalances, that increases the chances of a financial crisis, like an uncontrolled decline of the dollar, and higher long-term interest rates.

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The Bush White House has always given us the worst aspects of the American right without any of the advantages. We get the radical goals but not the efficient management

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the administration has managed to so strain the resources of our armed forces that the nation is unprepared to respond to a crisis anywhere else in the world.

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Mr. Kerry has the capacity to do far, far better.

These are just the lies. 99% of the rest of this article stretches the truth to the point of being comical. This whole opinion peice is about as truthful as a $2 whore on payday.

This is nothing more than 2-pages of anti-Bush propaganda. Hardly worth the advertising Frank has been doing in so many threads.

Let's look at the lies...

There is no denying that this race is mainly about Mr. Bush's disastrous tenure. Nearly four years ago, after the Supreme Court awarded him the presidency,

John Ashcroft, a favorite of the far right with a history of insensitivity to civil liberties,

He moved quickly to implement a far-reaching anti-choice agenda including censorship of government Web sites and a clampdown on embryonic stem cell research.

He also made tax cuts a higher priority than doing what was needed for America's security;

a Nixonian obsession with secrecy, disrespect for civil liberties and inept management.

Mr. Ashcroft appeared on TV time and again to announce sensational arrests of people who turned out to be either innocent, harmless braggarts or extremely low-level sympathizers of Osama bin Laden who, while perhaps wishing to do something terrible, lacked the means.

Like the tax cuts, Mr. Bush's obsession with Saddam Hussein seemed closer to zealotry than mere policy.

If he wins re-election, domestic and foreign financial markets will know the fiscal recklessness will continue. Along with record trade imbalances, that increases the chances of a financial crisis, like an uncontrolled decline of the dollar, and higher long-term interest rates.

The Bush White House has always given us the worst aspects of the American right without any of the advantages. We get the radical goals but not the efficient management

the administration has managed to so strain the resources of our armed forces that the nation is unprepared to respond to a crisis anywhere else in the world.

Mr. Kerry has the capacity to do far, far better.

These are just the lies. 99% of the rest of this article stretches the truth to the point of being comical. This whole opinion peice is about as truthful as a $2 whore on payday.

McGentrix wrote:

This is nothing more than 2-pages of anti-Bush propaganda. Hardly worth the advertising Frank has been doing in so many threads.

Let's look at the lies...

Let's!

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There is no denying that this race is mainly about Mr. Bush's disastrous tenure. Nearly four years ago, after the Supreme Court awarded him the presidency,

Do you deny that the Supreme Court was the ultimate arbiter?

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John Ashcroft, a favorite of the far right with a history of insensitivity to civil liberties,

Do you deny that Ashcroft has a history of insensitivities to civil liberties? (I can get cites!)

Yes.

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He moved quickly to implement a far-reaching anti-choice agenda including censorship of government Web sites and a clampdown on embryonic stem cell research.

Do you deny that he hasn't done what he can to further the pro-life agenda? Aren't pro-lifers against stem cell research? Hasn't he voiced his opinion in specifically those terms? (Sanctity of life, etc.)

Yes.

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He also made tax cuts a higher priority than doing what was needed for America's security;

This one is a bit of a value judgement, but a compelling case could be made. No tax cut on the most wealthy = more money available for homeland security.

You call it a "value judgement, I call it a lie.

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a Nixonian obsession with secrecy, disrespect for civil liberties and inept management.

Again, that has been documented. "Nixonian" is subjective, but the rest of it can be cited.

BS. Cite the disrespect of civil liberties and inept managment, or would that just be making a "value judgement"?

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Mr. Ashcroft appeared on TV time and again to announce sensational arrests of people who turned out to be either innocent, harmless braggarts or extremely low-level sympathizers of Osama bin Laden who, while perhaps wishing to do something terrible, lacked the means.

This one's nice and objective. Can you please get some cites contradicting it?

Objective? Nah, that's just more bs.

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Like the tax cuts, Mr. Bush's obsession with Saddam Hussein seemed closer to zealotry than mere policy.

"Seemed" -- explicitly subjective. Not a statement of fact, so can't be called a lie.

Yes, it can. I just did.

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If he wins re-election, domestic and foreign financial markets will know the fiscal recklessness will continue. Along with record trade imbalances, that increases the chances of a financial crisis, like an uncontrolled decline of the dollar, and higher long-term interest rates.

Do you deny he's been fiscally reckless?

Yes.

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The Bush White House has always given us the worst aspects of the American right without any of the advantages. We get the radical goals but not the efficient management

Subjective. Could go into how inefficient he is. Why do you think he's efficient?

Subjective? Lies.

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the administration has managed to so strain the resources of our armed forces that the nation is unprepared to respond to a crisis anywhere else in the world.

This was explicitly mentioned by Bush as a reason for why we're not in Darfur. BUSH agrees with this one.

lies.

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Mr. Kerry has the capacity to do far, far better.

Subjective. I agree, of course.

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These are just the lies. 99% of the rest of this article stretches the truth to the point of being comical. This whole opinion peice is about as truthful as a $2 whore on payday.

Nah. Those are just the statements you disagree with. Haven't provided any corroboration of the "lies". The one about Ashcroft and arrests might be a good place to start, as it has the most objective info. (Except for the overextended forces one, which I already addressed.)

I understand your point of view, but it appears you are blinded by partisonship.

People tend to read the publications they are comfortable with not the ones that might challenge their opinions. Human nature. I don't blame JW for feeling that way about the Times. Was there a chance in hell they would endorse Bush.?

For me personally, as far as facts and untrue allegations are concerned, I still trust the Times compared to the Washington Times for example.

And before you ask JW, I try to read conservative viewpoints with an open mind. Of this practice I have no qualms.