China Seizes U.S. Underwater Drone From International Waters

You know it's exactly true, your just trying to be provocative. You sound delusional.

Delusional & democrat go hand-in-hand, I am neither.
What he posted is factually incorrect.

You sound foolish.

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You're not delusional, Ivan? Check the numbers from the Bureau of Labor Statistics. Here they are for Full Time jobs:

Bush's last year was January 2008-January 2009.
Jan 2008...........121.435 Million Full Time jobs
Jan 2009...........115.818 Million Full Time jobs
Total Loss = minus 5.62 Million Full Time jobs LOST -

Now for Obama's last two years.
Nov 2014.......119.641 Million Full Time jobs
Nov 2015.......122.099 Million Full time jobs
Nov 2016.......124.202 Million Full time jobs

Totals: +2.103 Million Full Time jobs gained since Nov 2015,
............+4.561 Million Full Time jobs gained in the last 24 months.

Source: www.bls.gov

In a Full Time employed workforce of over 119 Million, annual job losses and gains are rounded off to the nearest Million.

You lose again, Ivan. Better tell your boss that the Kremlin needs better talking points to run down Obama. The truth makes him look good.

He sounds brainwashed, because what he says is total nonsense. It's what happens when people believe only what they want to believe and reality be damned.

Nobody can respect anyone who flees in terror from a tuba.

That's not China.

They returned it.

So let me get this straight. China steals one of our underwater drones and trump tweets;

“China steals United States Navy research drone in international waters – rips it out of the water and takes it to China in unpresidented (sic) act.”

Now China is going to return the drone. Trump's response?

“We should tell China that we don’t want the drone they stole back. – let them keep it!”

Meanwhile, Jason Miller, Trump’s communications director tweets;

@realdonaldtrump gets it done: "China says it will return US drone it
seized http://thehill.com/policy/defense/310872-china-says-it-will-return-us-drone-it-seized …"

Yes, you can tell we have a very strong leader here and China is cowering in fear.

Did North Korea ever return that surveillance jet they stole while Clinton was president?

TPP failing will be an enormous win for China. Interesting that it's not common knowledge in the US. I've been hearing that message for about a year on international media. They're got Africa. They''re working on being the best friend of everyone in South America. They're making enormous inroads in Canada. If they can nab all the TPP partners without the US, it's a superwin.

Like all their other of their failures, they can blame their own greed for TPP being in trouble. It's only half trade, but half giving unconscionable perks to the framers of it, particularly international companies and big pharma. Big pharma for instance gets to extend how long they charge those overblown prices and makes it harder for poor countries to make generics. If a company disagrees with a country's trade conditions they can bypass the nation for an agency that makes the decision.

That's funny. As far as Obama was concerned, Russia was no threat in 2012 and a year later they took Crimea. Did that look like actions of a nation that was afraid? Hell, Obama and Hillary didn't even see it coming, they were worrying about Climate Change. Not to mention Hillary signed off on the deal with a Russian company to get a bunch of Uranium. What about the "Russian Reset"? That seemed to work out so well... Wasn't there a comment in 2012 about the 80's wanting their foreign policy back... Russia has played Obama for a fool and we will pay for price for it.

Obama and Hillary have done nothing but rollover to other nations. What did they do about China and the islands they built in international waters? Now they take an underwater drone and you want to blame Trump?

BTW, they didn't promptly return the drone, we won't have it back until tomorrow, that means they have had 4 days to learn more about our tech. Obama has allowed the worst players on the world stage to gain more power and influence and to weaken the US.

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Yes, and what happened to Russia when they foolishly annexed the Crimea? They tried to make it look like it was the will of the Crimean population, but it didn't work. When Russia moved troops into the Crimea, (part of Ukraine, which is not a NATO country but a breakaway nation from Russia), Russia tried to bluff it through but Obama got together with the EU and slapped economic sanctions on Russia that slowed the Russian economy considerably. Then Obama got together with Saudi Arabia and got the Saudis to continue oil production, which combined with American oil production drove the price of oil way down.

Russia's major product is oil. Between Obama's work with the Saudis and his agreement with the EU, the Russian economy took a giant fall downward, and Russia remains in a Depression to this day. This is a chart of the Russian ruble vs the US Dollar-the ruble caved under the pressure Obama brought against Russia, which Putin completely miscalculated.



And if that wasn't enough, Obama got together with Saudi Arabia for the Saudi's to keep pumping oil, whcih drove down the price of Russia's only product, oil. This put the Russian economy into a Depression from which they haven't recovered. Putin gained a small parcel of land that it was allowed to lease anyway, and lost her economy because Obama caved them in. Note the GDP of the Russian economy before and after 2014, when Russia invaded Ukraine.



Russia is economically in a severly weakened condition because of what Obama did to them. And there was more to come if Russia tried more, and they knew it. Trump, on the other hand, is already talking about taking off sanctions against Russia to please his buddy boy Putin.

I understand the frustration with Trump trying to make nice with Russia in the face of all their aggression. But it wasn't so long ago that Obama and Hillary were handing Putin a reset button and making light of Romney for saying that Putin was a major enemy.

Trump will learn, just as Obama and Hillary learned. (I hope.)

It's common knowledge with me. I guess I can't speak for anyone else though.

Unfortunately in the US both the right and the left have unfairly demonized the TPP as something that it isn't.

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Nobody saw Ukraine defying Putin and embracing democracy. That's what set off the invasion of Crimea.

Btw, if you want to look at Putin's defence of "near abroad" the first instance the was virtual seizure of South Ossetia from Georgia when Dubya was president. The difference is that he was too much of a wuss to use sanctions.

That's brilliant!!!!! I will hear that Tuba in my head every time I see the Groepenfuhrer. Loved it Izzy

I love the look of panic in his face as he tries to accelerate away.