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READ THE NEWSWEEK POLL - WAR OR NOT?

 
 
Reply Mon 27 Jan, 2003 08:31 pm
http://msnbc.com/news/864239.asp?0cb=-111132721
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littlek
 
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Reply Mon 27 Jan, 2003 08:51 pm
I don't really understand the difference between the black and blue results. And how do they have the results from a poll from the future? "The poll was taken November 23-24, 2003"
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Mon 27 Jan, 2003 08:57 pm
I did not see that date. Something screwy here.
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trespassers will
 
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Reply Tue 28 Jan, 2003 12:06 pm
The responses in black are for MSNBC Web site users who answered the questions, and do not represent a valid scientific sample.

The responses in blue are from the Newsweek poll, and represent a valid scientific sample.
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littlek
 
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Reply Tue 28 Jan, 2003 12:14 pm
In that case, this is an appropriate place for a quote found in today's Boston Globe's diversion pages:

"The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt." ~ Bertrand Russell
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roger
 
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Reply Tue 28 Jan, 2003 12:15 pm
The responses in black are for MSNBC Web site users who answered the questions, and do not represent a valid scientific sample.

The responses in blue are from the Newsweek poll, and represent a valid scientific sample.

So, any ideas on the disparity between the two polls? They are not only large, they move in different directions.
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littlek
 
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Reply Tue 28 Jan, 2003 12:21 pm
very strange. is the difference due to who owns computers and who doesn't?
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trespassers will
 
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Reply Tue 28 Jan, 2003 12:22 pm
roger wrote:
So, any ideas on the disparity between the two polls? They are not only large, they move in different directions.

Just a guess, but I think those opposed to something are more likely to look for places to express that displeasure than are those who are for something. So, in any unscientific sampling of opinion, you tend to find more people who are against X than are for it.
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snood
 
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Reply Tue 28 Jan, 2003 12:24 pm
That theory must not apply to presidential popularity polls.
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timberlandko
 
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Reply Tue 28 Jan, 2003 01:16 pm
I surmise the disparity in part at least stems from the fact that The Newsweek Reader first cares enough to pick up a news periodical or visit a mainstream news website, and then felt motivated sufficiently to consider the questions in light of personal findings related to the matter before deciding to respond. The MSN respondants are likely a less informed bunch, and less given to critical thinking. The MSN Userbase might be considered perhaps more "Equalitarian" than "Egalitarian" as compared to the fans of Newsweek.


Maybe not ... but that's how it seems to me.



timber
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trespassers will
 
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Reply Tue 28 Jan, 2003 02:02 pm
snood wrote:
That theory must not apply to presidential popularity polls.

Okay, Snood, I'll bite...

Why not?

- TW
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steissd
 
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Reply Tue 28 Jan, 2003 03:56 pm
Well, the results of the scientifically valid Newsweek poll show that majority of the Americans did not surrender to the pacifist whining.
This makes me to hope that the U.S. global leadership will remain unquestioned .
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williamhenry3
 
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Reply Tue 28 Jan, 2003 04:23 pm
Peace.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Tue 28 Jan, 2003 05:41 pm
Why are some conservatives so insistent on calling people who disagree with them whiners? Can't we disagree without name calling?
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steissd
 
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Reply Wed 29 Jan, 2003 05:02 am
And why do the Socialists consider everyone that is not a pacifist, a warmonger and chickenhawk? But I agree that namecalling should not appear here. By all means, did not mean any specific A2K member.
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dlowan
 
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Reply Wed 29 Jan, 2003 05:51 am
It won't let me see the results of the poll, so I cannot comment! Is this some form of homeland security??? LOL.
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msolga
 
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Reply Wed 29 Jan, 2003 05:56 am
"The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt." ~ Bertrand Russell[/quote]

Great quote, littlek. Very appropriate for these times we're living through.
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dlowan
 
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Reply Wed 29 Jan, 2003 06:06 am
Or, as Yeats put it:

"The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity."

(The Second Coming)
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msolga
 
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Reply Wed 29 Jan, 2003 06:13 am
dlowan

another very apt quote.
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littlek
 
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Reply Wed 29 Jan, 2003 08:57 am
It was very timely, the Boston Globe is like that sometimes....
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