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Gary Johnson for President of U.S.

 
 
gollum
 
Reply Fri 23 Sep, 2016 09:27 am
I understand that he would sharply cut the military if elected, but our soldiers prefer him to Clinton and Trump.

Why?
 
Leadfoot
 
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Reply Fri 23 Sep, 2016 09:52 am
@gollum,
Possibly for two reasons.

1. They are in a better position than the public to see the incompetence and waste in the military.

2. A soldier understands the necessity for looking beyond immediate personal gain for the sake of a longer term objective.
gollum
 
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Reply Fri 23 Sep, 2016 10:04 am
@Leadfoot,
Leadfoot-

Thank you.

I hope you are right. I would guess Johnson's policy would result in many soldiers being discharged.
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Miller
 
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Reply Fri 23 Sep, 2016 10:06 am
@gollum,
gollum wrote:

I understand that he would sharply cut the military if elected, but our soldiers prefer him to Clinton and Trump.

Why?


What should the citizens do? Shine up our guns?
gollum
 
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Reply Fri 23 Sep, 2016 10:28 am
@Miller,
Miller-

I don't think so.

Presently, I understand the U.S. has a large number of foreign military bases (see Exhibit 1). Perhaps not all of them are needed to keep the American people secure.

Exhibit 1
United States Army
Main article: List of United States Army installations
Overseas
Germany - 38 facilities
Main article: List of United States Army installations in Germany

Artillery Kaserne, Garmisch-Partenkirchen
Barton Barracks, Ansbach (scheduled to close)[1]
Bismarck Kaserne, Ansbach
Bleidorn Housing Area, Ansbach
Dagger Complex, Darmstadt Training Center Griesheim (scheduled to close in 2015)
Edelweiss Lodge and Resort, Garmisch-Partenkirchen
Gen. Lucius D. Clay Kaserne (former Wiesbaden Army Airfield, renamed 2012), Wiesbaden
Germersheim Army Depot, Germersheim
Grafenwöhr Training Area, Grafenwöhr/Vilseck
Hohenfels Training Area/Joint Multinational Readiness Center, Hohenfels (Upper Palatinate)
Husterhoeh Kaserne, Pirmasens
Kaiserslautern Military Community
Katterbach Kaserne, Ansbach
Kelley Barracks, Stuttgart
Kleber Kaserne, Kaiserslautern Military Community
Lampertheim Training Area, Lampertheim (scheduled to close in 2015)
Landstuhl Regional Medical Center, Landstuhl
Merrill Barracks , Nurnberg
McCully Barracks, Wackernheim
Miesau Army Depot, Miesau
Oberdachstetten Storage Area, Ansbach
Panzer Kaserne, Stuttgart
Patch Barracks, Stuttgart
Pulaski Barracks, Kaiserslautern
Rhine Ordnance Barracks, Kaiserslautern
Robinson Barracks, Stuttgart
Rose Barracks, Vilseck
Sembach Kaserne, Kaiserslautern
Sheridan Barracks, Garmisch-Partenkirchen
Shipton Kaserne, Ansbach
Smith Barracks, Baumholder
Storck Barracks, Illesheim
Stuttgart Army Airfield, Filderstadt
Mainz-Kastel Storage Station (scheduled to close in 2015)
USAG Wiesbaden Military Training Area, Mainz, Gonsenheim/Mombach
USAG Wiesbaden Training Area, Mainz Finthen Airport
USAG Wiesbaden Radar Station, Mainz Finthen Airport
Urlas Housing and Shopping Complex, Ansbach (converted from Urlas Training Area in 2010-2011)

Israel

The Dimona Radar Facility is an American-operated radar base in the Negev, staffed by 120 US military personnel.

Italy - 3 facilities
Main article: List of United States Army installations in Italy

Aviano Air Base
Caserma Ederle, Vicenza
Camp Darby, Pisa-Livorno
Camp DelDin, Vicenza

Japan - 84 facilities
Main article: United States Forces Japan

Camp Zama, Tokyo
Fort Buckner, Okinawa
Torii Station, Okinawa

Kosovo
Main article: List of United States Army installations in Kosovo
Kuwait
Main article: List of United States Army installations in Kuwait
South Korea
Main articles: List of United States Army installations in South Korea and United States Forces Korea


United States Marine Corps

Afghanistan

Camp Eggers
Camp Dwyer
Camp Leatherneck
Camp Rhino
FOB Delhi
FOB Delaram
FOB Geronimo
Firebase Fiddler's Green
PB Jaker

Germany

Camp Panzer Kaserne, Böblingen

Japan

Marine Corps Base Camp Smedley D. Butler, Okinawa. Note: these camps are dispersed throughout Okinawa, but still under the administration of the MCB complex.
Camp Courtney
Camp Fuji, Shizuoka Prefecture
Camp Foster
Camp Gonsalves (Jungle Warfare Training Center)
Camp Hansen
Camp Kinser
Camp Lester
Camp McTureous
Camp Schwab
Marine Corps Air Station Futenma, Okinawa
Marine Corps Air Station Iwakuni, Yamaguchi Prefecture

Navy

Overseas
Bahrain

NSA Bahrain (website)
Mina Sulman, Bahrain
Muharraq Airfield, Bahrain

British Indian Ocean Territory

NSF Diego Garcia

El Salvador

CSL Comalapa

Egypt

Naval Medical Research Unit 3, Cairo (website)

Cuba

Guantanamo Bay (website)

Djibouti

Camp Lemonnier

Greece

NSA Souda Bay (website)

Hong Kong

Ship Support Office Hong Kong
USN ships are assigned Pun Shan Shek Anchorage between Lantau Island and Tsing Yi.

Italy

NSA Capodichino
Gricignano Support Site
NSA Naples (website)
NSA Gaeta (website)
NAS Sigonella (website)
Augusta Bay Port Facility
NCTS Naples

Japan

NAF Atsugi, (website)
NSF Kamiseya (website)
NAF Misawa (website)
CFA Okinawa (website)
CFA Sasebo, Sasebo (website)
CFA Yokosuka, Yokosuka (website)
Naval Computer and Telecommunications Station Yokosuka

Republic of Korea

CFA Chinhae (website)

Kuwait

Kuwait NB

Oman

Masirah

Peru

Naval Medical Research Unit 6, Lima (website)

Qatar

Doha IAP

Saudi Arabia

King Abdul Aziz IAP, Jeddah
King Fahd NB, Jeddah

Singapore

Sembawang Naval Base

Spain

NS Rota (website)

United Arab Emirates

Fujairah IAP
Jebel Ali Port Facility

Air Force

Afghanistan

Bagram Airfield
Herat International Airport
Jalalabad Airport
Kabul International Airport
Kandahar International Airport
Mazar-i-Sharif Airport
Shindand Air Base

Bahrain

Bahrain International Airport
Sheikh Isa Air Base

Germany

Ansbach
NATO Air Base Geilenkirchen, Geilenkirchen
Ramstein Air Base
Spangdahlem Air Base
Wiesbaden

Denmark (Greenland)

Thule Air Base

Honduras

Soto Cano Air Base

Italy

Aviano Air Base
Camp Darby (Pisa-Livorno)
Sigonella Naval Air Station

Japan

Kadena Air Base, Okinawa Prefecture
Misawa Air Base, Misawa, Aomori
Yokota Air Base, Tokyo

Kuwait

Ahmed Al Jaber Air Base
Ali Al Salem Air Base

Oman

Masirah Air Base
Thumrait Air Base

Portugal

Lajes Field, Azores

Qatar

Al Udeid Air Base

Singapore

Paya Lebar Air Base

South Korea

Kunsan Air Base
Osan Air Base

Spain

Morón Air Base, Andalucia

Turkey

Incirlik Air Base

United Arab Emirates

Al Dhafra Air Base

United Kingdom

RAF Alconbury, Huntingdonshire
RAF Croughton, Northamptonshire
RAF Lakenheath, Brandon, Suffolk [2]
snood
 
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Reply Fri 23 Sep, 2016 10:33 am
@gollum,
gollum wrote:

I understand that he would sharply cut the military if elected, but our soldiers prefer him to Clinton and Trump.

Why?


Have you got a source for this claim (that Johnson is preferred by military personnel over Trump and Clinton), or should we just trust you?
engineer
 
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Reply Fri 23 Sep, 2016 10:40 am
@gollum,
gollum wrote:

I understand that he would sharply cut the military if elected, but our soldiers prefer him to Clinton and Trump.

Why?

I can't speak for others, but as an ex-military guy, I can't stand Trump's disrespect and lack of regard for the work and sacrifice than goes into serving in the military combined with his complete lack of understanding of US foreign policy and how and why the US projects force abroad. I'm also somewhat uncomfortable with Clinton's willingness to engage US lives for foreign policy goals of dubious value. That said, Johnson also displays a lot of the weaknesses that Trump does. Foreign bases are a good example. Besides giving us jumping off points around the world, they show the flag and are a form of economic aid. It takes weeks to move significant resources to Europe or Asia from the US. When there is a natural disaster in the Indian Ocean, the US military is there saving lives and building good will as a result. You can't do that from US soil. Johnson would make the US a lot more isolationist and that probably appeals to a lot of military people, but working with our allies and being engaged around the world is a much more effective role for the US. If you look at the one foreign policy area where President Obama gets universal criticism it is in Syria where he refused to engage. That is the Johnson p0licy is a nutshell.
Baldimo
 
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Reply Fri 23 Sep, 2016 12:10 pm
@snood,
It's actually a margin of error tie between Trump and Johnson, with Hillary coming in a distant 3rd.

http://www.militarytimes.com/articles/this-poll-of-the-us-military-has-gary-johnson-tied-with-donald-trump-in-the-race-for-president

Quote:
Conducted in September, it is the first scientific breakdown of voting preferences among service members, and includes more than 2,200 responses from active-duty troops. And it shows a very different race than the one playing out on the broader national stage.

Among the entire military force, Trump leads Johnson 37.6 percent to 36.5 percent, within the study’s 2 percent margin of error. Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton trails as a distant third-place choice, with only 16.3 percent of troops' support.
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Baldimo
 
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Reply Fri 23 Sep, 2016 12:16 pm
@engineer,
Quote:
Foreign bases are a good example. Besides giving us jumping off points around the world, they show the flag and are a form of economic aid. It takes weeks to move significant resources to Europe or Asia from the US. When there is a natural disaster in the Indian Ocean, the US military is there saving lives and building good will as a result.


What you say is only partially true. It will depend on what is needed and where it has to go and what is available.

My unit and I are an example of this. We were state side in Oct 2005 just starting out our training for Afghanistan. We were suppose to spend 3 or 4 months up-training but instead we were shipped out to Pakistan. We went from Ft. Sill OK to Afghanistan in 1 1/2 weeks. We were boots on the ground with some of our Chinooks half a week later. Our entire deployed unit was in country and flying missions before the end of Oct. We spent the next 5 months flying missions and saving lives in Pakistan.
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roger
 
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Reply Fri 23 Sep, 2016 12:42 pm
@gollum,

gollum wrote:

USAG Wiesbaden Training Area, Mainz Finthen Airport


Oh, that. When I was stationed there, we called it Finthen Funny Farm.
McGentrix
 
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Reply Fri 23 Sep, 2016 01:07 pm
@roger,
roger wrote:


gollum wrote:

USAG Wiesbaden Training Area, Mainz Finthen Airport


Oh, that. When I was stationed there, we called it Finthen Funny Farm.


My dad was stationed in Wiesbaden in the early 70's.
roger
 
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Reply Fri 23 Sep, 2016 01:10 pm
@McGentrix,
Finthen was on the other side of the river and uphill from Mainz. Wiesbaden was our favored city by a considerable margin.

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PUNKEY
 
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Reply Fri 23 Sep, 2016 03:55 pm
Johnson's a goof.

He needs to keep his tongue in his mouth when talking to the media, for heaven's sake.
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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Fri 23 Sep, 2016 06:22 pm
@gollum,
On what do you base your claim that our soldiers prefer him to Clinton or Trump?
Miller
 
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Reply Sat 24 Sep, 2016 01:05 am
@Leadfoot,
Leadfoot wrote:

A soldier understands the necessity for looking beyond immediate personal gain for the sake of a longer term objective.


So does a professional football player in the NFL.
gollum
 
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Reply Sat 24 Sep, 2016 07:32 am
@snood,
snood-

Thank you.

See: http://www.militarytimes.com/articles/this-poll-of-the-us-military-has-gary-johnson-tied-with-donald-trump-in-the-race-for-president
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gollum
 
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Reply Sat 24 Sep, 2016 07:34 am
@Finn dAbuzz,
Finn dAbuzz-

Thank you.

See: http://www.militarytimes.com/articles/this-poll-of-the-us-military-has-gary-johnson-tied-with-donald-trump-in-the-race-for-president
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Leadfoot
 
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Reply Sat 24 Sep, 2016 07:52 am
@Miller,
Quote:

So does a professional football player in the NFL.

Not a fan, so this is the view from 30,000 feet.

Maybe. I don't see a lot of team loyalty there.

Fantasy football is the fastest growing sector of the NFL (including revenue sources). That's all about the individual.
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