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CBS = Can't Believe Stories

 
 
Reply Tue 21 Sep, 2004 03:18 pm
Do you think that Dan Blather's dis-like of George W. Bush, led to his decision to air the story using bogus documents as source for his story.


I feel Dan was slithering to find dirt and wanted to be the first to air it, truth or not.


Seems like another blatant lie by News organizations.

Remember the story about trucks that explode, a lie.

Remember the story about a Food Chain from the south, another lie, planted news staff working in the grocery store made things up.



I think the list goes on and on....

Time for Dan Blather do be fired.

Can you trust ABC, CBS, or NBC all three have had stories with blatant lies.
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Lash
 
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Reply Tue 21 Sep, 2004 03:19 pm
Down with Dan.
He's RatherBiased...
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Justthefax
 
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Reply Tue 21 Sep, 2004 03:29 pm
Soon after the story aired, there were people who were stating that the story was flawed.

CBS stood behind the story for a very long time.

CBS did admit that they lied and deceived the American People

It would be good if they told why they lied. That CBS has an agenda.

Time for CBS to fire everyone who worked on this story.
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Dartagnan
 
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Reply Tue 21 Sep, 2004 03:42 pm
Hey, here's an idea for those who hate Dan Rather: Don't watch CBS News. That's how I feel about Fox, but I don't flood this forum with endless screeds about O'Reilly's biases.

All the blather about Rather's mistake is getting a mite tiresome...
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Lash
 
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Reply Tue 21 Sep, 2004 03:46 pm
If O'Reilly did what Dan did, you would be.

It wasn't a mistake.

Guess you can take your own advice. This is a thread about CBS's and Dan's culpability in this docudrama. If you don't want to read it, there are other threads...
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Dartagnan
 
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Reply Tue 21 Sep, 2004 03:52 pm
And those who don't toe the party line should post elsewhere. Point well taken, Lash.

I will.
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Justthefax
 
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Reply Tue 21 Sep, 2004 03:55 pm
I don't hate Dan Blather, I do not trust him as a news source. I do not watch CBS news. However I will speak out when stories like this come out.

Feel free to report and share what you like or dislike.
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Lash
 
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Reply Tue 21 Sep, 2004 04:09 pm
D'art--

You know I can tolerate the Dem party line. I just didn't understand why you posted on a topic you consider 'flooding the forum' and tiresome.

We've had zillions of multiple topics about other things.

I've never understood people showing up to post that they hate the topic....

Anyway, not running you off a justthefax' thread. I won't respond to you here, if that helps.
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Justthefax
 
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Reply Tue 21 Sep, 2004 04:14 pm
Why would you consider this FLOODING the fourm. This is the first topic that I have started on this subject.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Tue 21 Sep, 2004 05:57 pm
Justthefax wrote:
Why would you consider this FLOODING the fourm. This is the first topic that I have started on this subject.


Hmmmm.... Good point, I guess some just don't like the ideas that come from the right.
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Justthefax
 
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Reply Tue 21 Sep, 2004 06:03 pm
Remember you don't have to have a point to have a point. Just be careful where you point that point.
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panzade
 
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Reply Tue 21 Sep, 2004 06:16 pm
Well ...harpies of the right. I can't speak for anyone else that lists to port...but I'm thoroughly embarassed by Rather's faux pas. I want to know everything, how it happened , if there was a deliberate effort by CBS to irresponsibly hide the truth...etc. If Rather has culpability I want him fired and anyone else who was involved.
I'm not going to make excuses like the swift boaters did it too or Fox or anybody else. Media bias cannot be swept under the rug in a democracy.
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Lash
 
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Reply Tue 21 Sep, 2004 07:01 pm
This is why I pay homage to Panzade.

Rah to the righteous. RAH!!!
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JustWonders
 
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Reply Tue 21 Sep, 2004 07:33 pm
It's not the first time Dan Blather (lol) has crossed the line. He said he was sorry last time, too. Big deal. Be sure to read to the end - it gets quite bizarre.

Dan Rather, Democratic Fundraiser
by L. Brent Bozell III
April 5, 2001

It's happened. The man who almost always described Kenneth Starr to his TV audience as a "Republican independent counsel" (hinting that the first adjective canceled out the second) is now an established "Democratic objective newsman."

The Washington Post gave front-page play on Wednesday to Howard Kurtz's report that Dan Rather helped raise $20,000 for the Travis County Democratic Party in Austin, Texas. When he was confronted with the story, Democrat Dan had some curious things to say.

Rather said he "wouldn't be surprised" if critics use the incident to call him a closet Democrat. "I'm going to get that criticism whether I deserve it or not." If he's undeserving of the label, perhaps - perhaps - he'll finally understand how this is precisely what he did to Kenneth Starr. Rather waved Starr's Republican affiliations around like a bloody shirt and endlessly characterized him as a partisan prosecutor while Starr was investigating Bill Clinton. For the record: Starr wasn't headlining GOP fundraising events.

Sounding an awful like Al Gore tumbling out of a Buddhist temple, Rather claimed he hadn't realized beforehand that the event was a fundraiser. But Dan "stopped short" of "saying he would not have attended had he known in advance that he was being used to raise money." But why stop short of making such an easy, perfunctory statement? Because the event was co-sponsored by Robin Rather, the anchorman's daughter and a "Texas environmentalist and marketing executive" who's eyeing a run for Mayor of Austin.

Rather also tried to get out from under this story by emphasizing how he'd had his picture taken the night before with Texas GOP Gov. Rick Perry. So?? Rather didn't help raise $20,000 for Perry so there's not even a hint of balance there.

"Over a long period of time, I've met with political groups large and small, Democratic and Republican, Green Party, mugwumps, you name it, because that's what reporters do," Rather claimed. But there's an enormous difference between circulating your charm and circulating the collection plate. Reporters don't headline fundraisers for political parties.

This is not to say reporters don't cross the line. They do so all the time, and get away with it.

Over the last decade, major anchors, editors, and reporters have attended fundraisers for liberal interest groups. Transafrica has drawn Bernard Shaw, Bryant Gumbel, and Ted Koppel. The Children's Defense Fund drew Roger Rosenblatt and Jane Pauley. ABC's Carole Simpson headlined a fundraiser for the NAACP Legal Defense Fund. Some are even revealed to donate to Democrats.

Dan Rather's transgression is in another league altogether. He's the only major figure to star at an event that says, "Please join us for an evening with DAN RATHER" that comes with an RSVP envelope asking for $1,000 for the Democratic Party.

An anchor who cares one iota about the appearance of impartiality - and one has to assume Rather cares - couldn't do much worse for his image than this.

This isn't the first time Rather's sympathy for Democrats of the Texas variety has led him to a fundraiser. In November of 1988, gossip columnist Liz Smith reported a "gang got together" in New York City and "gathered up money in buckets" for Ann Richards' (eventually successful) 1990 run for governor. Richards had just delighted journalists that summer with her wisecracking about George Bush being born with a silver foot in his mouth. Among the guests at the Richards shindig: Rather and his wife Jean.

Like most of the liberal media's thinly disguised political operatives, Rather could easily skip the fundraisers and contribute far more to the Democratic Party at the office - by loading up his newscasts with woeful tales of Republicans sneaking arsenic into the drinking water, trying to turn the planet into a global sauna, and the like. Why would Rather feel the need to take those regular rhetorical extremes to an entirely new level?

Perhaps the most annoying thing about Rather's appearance is the arrogant double standard of it all. There's one rule of civilized behavior for humanity, another for the press. After all his protests about unregulated "soft money" for political parties, he's now helped to raise it. And how many times have Rather and his colleagues throughout the establishment media railed at the American system being twisted by the nefarious machinations of so-called "partisan politics?" He now claims he's "truly sorry" about his appearance, but won't say so on the air, to the viewers to whom that apology is owed.

Still, nothing explains Rather's complete lack of judgment on this call. Maybe this explains it:

"I had someone at the Houston police station shoot me with heroin so I could do a story about it," Rather told the Ladies Home Journal in 1980. "The experience was a special kind of hell."

Residual side effects?

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A Lone Voice
 
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Reply Tue 21 Sep, 2004 08:55 pm
panzade wrote:
Well ...harpies of the right. I can't speak for anyone else that lists to port...but I'm thoroughly embarassed by Rather's faux pas. I want to know everything, how it happened , if there was a deliberate effort by CBS to irresponsibly hide the truth...etc. If Rather has culpability I want him fired and anyone else who was involved.
I'm not going to make excuses like the swift boaters did it too or Fox or anybody else. Media bias cannot be swept under the rug in a democracy.


Well said, panzade. Sometimes some of us (myself included) forget what is really important, and the CBS issue is important.
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Tue 21 Sep, 2004 09:06 pm
Panzade is up there on my respect meter, too.

This memogate thing is so serious that if it is not addressed, it could set a precedent in which the whole political process could be more at risk than it already is. Playing the 'yours is blacker than mine' game isn't helpful. At some point, patriots on both sides need to demand that everybody play by the rules.
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JustWonders
 
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Reply Tue 21 Sep, 2004 09:44 pm
http://i.timeinc.net/time/cartoons/20040917/3.jpg
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Justthefax
 
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Reply Mon 27 Sep, 2004 05:41 pm
I like it.
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JustWonders
 
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Reply Mon 27 Sep, 2004 06:52 pm
panzade wrote:
Well ...harpies of the right. I can't speak for anyone else that lists to port...but I'm thoroughly embarassed by Rather's faux pas. I want to know everything, how it happened , if there was a deliberate effort by CBS to irresponsibly hide the truth...etc. If Rather has culpability I want him fired and anyone else who was involved.
I'm not going to make excuses like the swift boaters did it too or Fox or anybody else. Media bias cannot be swept under the rug in a democracy.


Pan - The chairman and chief executive of Viacom, C-BS's parent, has vowed that the results of a recently announced probe would be "appropriate...and the consequences will be appropriate."

(Hope "appropriate" = "Rather is history"). We'll see.

PS I'm not a harpie LOL.
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