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And Yet You Defend This As A Triumph And Reason To Re Elect

 
 
Reply Fri 17 Sep, 2004 08:10 am
How can you do this? Are you that frightened?

http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/09/17/us.iraq.intel/index.html
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FreeDuck
 
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Reply Fri 17 Sep, 2004 08:15 am
Brings us back to the question: what has Bush done right?
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Fri 17 Sep, 2004 08:25 am
I had a cat once that often, while sleeping on the top of the sofa would roll over and fall off landing on the floor (not on his feet) and definitely express "I meant to do that." His name was George.
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willow tl
 
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Reply Fri 17 Sep, 2004 08:43 am
the story even more disturbing was the arrest of a mother of a slain soldier at a Laura Bush Rally...No comment of course by the Bushes...:-(
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blueveinedthrobber
 
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Reply Fri 17 Sep, 2004 08:52 am
willow_tl wrote:
the story even more disturbing was the arrest of a mother of a slain soldier at a Laura Bush Rally...No comment of course by the Bushes...:-(


saw that and unfortunately I, although it still outrages me, amd becoming used to it. Better all get used to it. think when he has full reign and no reelection to worry about what will happen........
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Fri 17 Sep, 2004 08:53 am
I'm just waiting for McG to come along and talk about how well things are going...

Cycloptichorn
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Fri 17 Sep, 2004 08:57 am
The Bush administration will one day be regarded as a great national tragedy.

How anyone can even consider giving them another four years to do more of what they have been doing is beyond comprehension.
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blueveinedthrobber
 
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Reply Fri 17 Sep, 2004 09:00 am
Cycloptichorn wrote:
I'm just waiting for McG to come along and talk about how well things are going...

Cycloptichorn


easy now......no need to be snide......besides...he'll be along.....
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Fri 17 Sep, 2004 09:00 am
Sorry Sad

No coffee this morning.

Cycloptichorn
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Fri 17 Sep, 2004 09:23 am
From Yahoo news:

Quote:
Senators slam administration on Iraq

By Barbara Slavin, USA TODAY

Senators from both parties accused the Bush administration Wednesday of incompetence in its efforts to rebuild Iraq (news - web sites) and said the United States could lose the war unless it improves security and gets more money into the Iraqi economy.



Among those harshly criticizing the White House at a hearing were the two top Republicans on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee: Chairman Richard Lugar of Indiana and Chuck Hagel of Nebraska.


Of the $18.4 billion Congress approved last year for Iraqi reconstruction, only $1.1 billion has been spent because of violence and other problems. Hagel called that record "beyond pitiful and embarrassing; it is now in the zone of dangerous."


Even Lugar, who is not usually given to strong rhetoric, said the failure to inject funds into the Iraqi economy quickly was "exasperating for anybody looking at this from any vantage point."


The hearing was called to discuss a new administration plan to reallocate $3.5 billion in reconstruction funds, primarily to Iraqi police and military training.


Hagel told two State Department officials they had "inherited a mess" from a year of Pentagon (news - web sites)-supervised government in Iraq and expressed doubt that the United States was winning the war. "It's not a pretty picture," he said.


The two witnesses - Ronald Schlicher, deputy assistant secretary of State for the Iraq bureau, and Joseph Bowab, deputy assistant secretary for foreign assistance programs and budget - conceded under questioning that the administration has fallen short of benchmarks touted over the past year:


• None of the 32,000 Iraqi police put on the beat since the overthrow of Saddam Hussein (news - web sites) has gone through a full training program, Bowab acknowledged.


• Of $13 billion pledged by other countries to aid Iraq's reconstruction, only $1.2 billion has been spent.


• The administration has created only 110,000 jobs for Iraqis, leaving a pool of unemployed young men, many of whom have become willing recruits for insurgents. The new reallocation is intended to provide 800,000 jobs, but many are short term, some for as little as one month.


Schlicher said the amount of money spent since the transition to an interim Iraqi government in June had doubled. But he added, "We have to do much better, and we will."
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CoastalRat
 
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Reply Fri 17 Sep, 2004 09:42 am
willow_tl wrote:
the story even more disturbing was the arrest of a mother of a slain soldier at a Laura Bush Rally...No comment of course by the Bushes...:-(


Ok, here is a report on that incident. Now if someone at a Kerry rally was interupting Kerry I would hope security would remove that person also. Of course, maybe you think it is ok to continue to interrupt someone who is speaking. I don't know.

"A woman wearing a T-shirt with the words "President Bush You Killed My Son" and a picture of a soldier killed in Iraq was detained after she interrupted Mrs. Bush's speech.

Police escorted Sue Niederer of Hopewell out of the rally after she demanded to know why her son, Army 1st Lt. Seth Dvorin, 24, was killed in Iraq. Dvorin died in February while trying to disarm a bomb.

As shouts of "Four More Years" subsided, Niederer, standing in the middle of the crowd of about 700, continued to shout about the killing of her son. Secret Service and local police escorted her out of the event, handcuffed her and placed her in the back of a police van. "
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Chuckster
 
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Reply Fri 17 Sep, 2004 12:09 pm
What? No dreamy talk of how Kerry would make things "all nice"? Guess "dropping his drawers" doesn't get it. Keep on harping all you Patriots.
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blueveinedthrobber
 
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Reply Fri 17 Sep, 2004 12:18 pm
what? Sarcastic confrontational remarks from chuckster? Oh sweetie....please relax....have a non homophobic (if possible for you)

((((((((((((((((((((((BEAR HUG)))))))))))))))))))))))
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Joe Nation
 
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Reply Fri 17 Sep, 2004 12:28 pm
She had alreay been removed from the rally area and was in the middle of expressing a political question when she was arrested.

CNN video shows the woman OUTSIDE of the rally, talking to members of the press, asking why sons and daughters of our leaders are not in the war when police arrived and cuffed her.

Hmmm.

Questions? Don't ask, and when you are told to shut up. Shut up.
Welcome to the new USA.
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revel
 
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Reply Fri 17 Sep, 2004 01:05 pm
I seem to remember in one of Kerry's campaign rallys or talks that some Bush supporters interrupted them and said, "4 more years" and shook those stupid flip floppers things. Mrs. Kerry replied back "four more years of hell" instead of having them arrested.

However, it seems that the woman didn't even interrupt Mrs. Bush so the situation is even worse.

I imagine for those that really follow these things on boards; it is getting harder and harder to defend Bush with a straight face.
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CoastalRat
 
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Reply Fri 17 Sep, 2004 01:23 pm
Joe Nation wrote:
She had alreay been removed from the rally area and was in the middle of expressing a political question when she was arrested.

CNN video shows the woman OUTSIDE of the rally, talking to members of the press, asking why sons and daughters of our leaders are not in the war when police arrived and cuffed her.

Hmmm.

Questions? Don't ask, and when you are told to shut up. Shut up.
Welcome to the new USA.


That being the case, then I would agree that this should not have happened. Of course, if police had already been summoned due to her being disruptive prior to removing herself from the rally, then maybe (just maybe) I could see them taking her into custody. But it seems a bit heavy handed if the shouting was over.

And thanks for the info Joe.
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