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Art 'ROBERTS' Paris?

 
 
MLM100
 
Reply Sun 7 Aug, 2016 06:12 am
https://flic.kr/p/JYE6HP

https://flic.kr/p/KUY9uT


I have purchased this lovely piece of art yesterday, it is on canvas/board at the back, really stunning.
It is signed by 'ROBERTS' if you can tell me anything more about it, year, original or artist I would love to hear from you
Thank you kindly
 
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Sun 7 Aug, 2016 06:25 am
@MLM100,
Its painted for tourists and will never be in a museum but it is nice and will make a nice hanging in your home. It would do well with a gold frame.

Reframed its got be to worth $200 -$300.
MLM100
 
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Reply Sun 7 Aug, 2016 06:34 am
@bobsal u1553115,
Thank you for your reply, I picked it up for £4 yesterday and I think that it is really pretty. I will reframe it as you mentioned. Do you think that it may represent Paris?
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Sun 7 Aug, 2016 06:39 am
@MLM100,
At least alluding to Paris. I see a series of different influences on his painting. It was painted to be sold and it has all the bells and whistles that make it sell-able. The price you paid makes it well worth a nice frame. I'd hang it in my home.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Sun 7 Aug, 2016 10:42 am
@MLM100,
There are lots of tourist art that have sooared in value and esteem in passing time. We hqve many here in the US from various plein air "achools" (like Conncticut Impressionists amd Bucks County Impressionists).

The one thing you want to do before you have it reframed. MAKE SURE THAT THE FRAME IS OR IS NOT MQDE BY THE ARTIST.
Many times these homemade frames add immense value to a pinting (orta like a toy in its original box)

Rockwell Kent was such n artist , he was a genre painter and made his own frmes. His work is worth several hundreds or thousnds more with an rtist made frame.

That qood frame looks hoakie enough to be artist made so dont be too quick to dump it.
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Sun 7 Aug, 2016 10:54 am
@farmerman,
In the Netherlands the gov't pays artists to make art all of which ends up in storage in yuge warehouses on the hope that some small percentage of that hoarde will recognize enough profit to pay for the entire scheme.

There's a lot about this otherwise very pleasing painting that says it was painted in a very formulaic method. But it also shows at least some basic understanding of prominent fine painters and expressionist subject.

The best we can say about the "origional" frame is it fits, it also seems more worn than the painting.

I'd like it enough to hang it in either its putative 'origional' or my prefered more in style gold.
farmerman
 
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Reply Sun 7 Aug, 2016 04:32 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
we had a sort of similar thing during the great depression. The Fed Art Project arm of the WPA had severl divisons for artits

Production
Teaching
Researching

Artists were paid about 20 bucks a week. When I was starting at the Pa Institute as an invitee through my high school "talented" program, one of my art instructors was a guy nmed David Baziotes, who was about 50 (cause he died the second yeqr I was in the class). Baziotes would go on about "creating art for the govmint". But much of thoise fine arts were produced as a series of pintings, murals, and print books (all signed and numbered). I have one of the books I bought at Davids funeral(My dad gave me the money and Its one of my prize possessions, a complete set of prints by famous artists. The books were about 25.00 by subcription nd re now worth in the rnge of 50K.

Buildings, post offices, schools, theaters, train stations, houses of the wealthy , all had WPA Fed ARts Project work on their walls.

I dont think thatd be possible today.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Mon 8 Aug, 2016 06:40 am
@bobsal u1553115,
bobsal u1553115 wrote:

In the Netherlands the gov't pays artists to make art all of which ends up in storage in yuge warehouses on the hope that some small percentage of that hoarde will recognize enough profit to pay for the entire scheme.


Andrew Graham Dixon covers that in his brilliant The High Art Of The Low Countries BBC documentary. It's 4 episodes long Here's a link.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTQmskJQyQw&list=PLVRYknQq5kYvZRBWidkolyXlLjsqlfJIG
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Mon 8 Aug, 2016 04:35 pm
@farmerman,
A lot of teachers got away with literally millions of dollars of that art after it was put into Chicago Schools. Still the art that was saved and identified was amazing.
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