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Time does not exist

 
 
bahman
 
Reply Fri 5 Aug, 2016 08:27 am
We experience forms and motions. Time is a concept that we use to have an idea about two motions, one is our standard clock and another is subject of our experience.
 
InfraBlue
 
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Reply Fri 5 Aug, 2016 08:42 am
@bahman,
To be clear, how does it not exist, exactly?
bahman
 
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Reply Fri 5 Aug, 2016 08:50 am
@InfraBlue,
I don't understand your question. Things either objectively exist, such as a chair, or subjectively exist, such as thought. Time is in neither category.
rosborne979
 
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Reply Fri 5 Aug, 2016 09:12 am
@bahman,
Uh oh, Fresco may have something to say about this line of reasoning... Smile
maxdancona
 
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Reply Fri 5 Aug, 2016 09:23 am
@bahman,
Does parsley exist?
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fresco
 
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Reply Fri 5 Aug, 2016 09:47 am
@rosborne979,
Who me ! Smile

To Bahman
The statement is only meaningful if you specify what 'existence' is relative to. ( What we call 'dead flies' don't 'exist' relative to hungry frogs).
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InfraBlue
 
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Reply Fri 5 Aug, 2016 10:52 am
@bahman,
bahman wrote:

I don't understand your question. Things either objectively exist, such as a chair, or subjectively exist, such as thought. Time is in neither category.


Thanks for clarifying. So, if time doesn't exist in either category, in what category does it exist? How would you categorize it?
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 5 Aug, 2016 10:57 am
@InfraBlue,
Time needs to exist for both the observer and the object they are seeing.
dalehileman
 
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Reply Fri 5 Aug, 2016 11:24 am
@cicerone imposter,
It sure does Cis. It's very real and gets tied up with howe we see and measure things
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InfraBlue
 
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Reply Fri 5 Aug, 2016 12:44 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

Time needs to exist for both the observer and the object they are seeing.

Sure, but not according to bahman, apparently.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Fri 5 Aug, 2016 12:50 pm
@bahman,
Time X Rate =Distance

{Time (t)} X {RATE (L/t)} ={Distance (L)}

cancelling

{Time} (1)} X {RATE (L/(1)} ={DISTANCE (L)}

or

(L) = (L)
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Fri 5 Aug, 2016 01:03 pm
If time didn't exist there wouldn't be a lunch time or a dinner time. I don't want to live in a world like that.

Has What's the time Mr Wolf been just a lie?
farmerman
 
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Reply Fri 5 Aug, 2016 01:27 pm
@izzythepush,
VOGONS would have no lunch
Setanta
 
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Reply Fri 5 Aug, 2016 01:29 pm
Well . . . what a relief. I don't feel at all old now.

Wait . . . what about my social security? If I never hit 67, i can't collect!
farmerman
 
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Reply Fri 5 Aug, 2016 01:30 pm
@farmerman,
My equation, as is, is the way it is now in a full 4D world
Without time , the other dimension,
wed have L=0

0r, what we call

dimensional inequivalence which gives physicists and chemists all sorts of problems.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 5 Aug, 2016 01:30 pm
@Setanta,
I started collecting social security at 63.
Gordon410
 
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Reply Fri 5 Aug, 2016 05:23 pm
@bahman,
Time is a mathematical measurement of movement. So the measurement called "time" exists.
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thack45
 
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Reply Fri 5 Aug, 2016 05:28 pm
Also Pink Floyd wrote a song about it, so... yeah
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Setanta
 
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Reply Fri 5 Aug, 2016 07:09 pm
@cicerone imposter,
I want my full benefit.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 5 Aug, 2016 07:19 pm
@Setanta,
I've been collecting for 18 years now. My estimate of total cash benefits thus far is $138,144. I once had a log on how much I paid into social security, and learned that my social security and medicare benefit far exceeded what I paid into the system. Just on Medicare alone, I had kidney problems, and the healthcare I got at the hospital for about two weeks was amazing. My out of pocket cost was a little over $100/day. Not only all the doctors and RNs, but techs were all first class. We're lucky because Kaiser Hospital is just one block away from where we live.

i also draw on my savings at $2,000/month (less taxes), so my income is a little over $3,000/month that includes my social security, but I have no fixed expenses. My wife pays for all household expenses, and for food and restaurant.

So, you can say I'm living high off the hog.
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