It's the 10 round cap that makes me think.

What daddy should do (I guess we're back in time when all families were under the direction of a father) and what happens are two different things.
But, if the All-Mighty Gun must be in all homes, then Daddy must be held responsible for any mishaps that occur.

Is that the idea, 45?

A little kid who finds DADDY's gun

...Personally I just don't think it is all that common that people go around with a gun at the ready in their pockets just waiting to be threatened by a criminal. Usually guns are either used in hunting or sitting on gun racks or in closets (or something) in both cases tragic accidents happen too often or a depressed teenager goes on a shooting spree with their "parents" gun. Maybe store owners and people like that have guns waiting to be used. But just ordinary people don't go around with guns in holsters like a wild west cowboy movie....

And I'm not going to throw statistics at you, but I encourage you to check it out for yourself. Great Britain, Australia, and other areas where guns have been outright banned for private ownership have seen marked increases in violent crime.

Canada's national crime rate increased 6% in 2003, its first substantial gain in over a decade. The increase was driven by a surge in counterfeiting across the country

On the other hand, the national homicide rate fell 7% last year to its lowest level since 1967.

Notable gains also occurred in other large-volume, minor offences such as mischief and disturbing the peace. Some forces have attributed the increase in minor offences to new reporting procedures introduced in 2003, which make it easier for the public to report these types of crimes to the police.

A recent report for Congress notes, "All countries have some form of firearms regulation, ranging from the very strictly regulated countries like Germany, Great Britain, Japan, Malaysia, Singapore and Sweden to the less stringently controlled uses in the jurisdictions of Mexico and Switzerland, where the right to bear arms continues as a part of the national heritage up to the present time." However, "From available statistics, among (the 27) countries surveyed, it is difficult to find a correlation between the existence of strict firearms regulations and a lower incidence of gun-related crimes. . . . (I)n Canada a dramatic increase in the percentage of handguns used in all homicides was reported during a period in which handguns were most strictly regulated. And in strictly regulated Germany, gun-related crime is much higher than in countries such as Switzerland and Israel, that have simpler and/or less restrictive legislation." (Library of Congress, "Firearms Regulations in Various Foreign Countries, May 1998.")

Australia-wide, homicides are up 3.2%.

Australia-wide, assaults are up 8.6%.

Australia-wide, armed-robberies are up 44%. (yes, FORTY-FOUR PERCENT)

In the state of Victoria, homicides-with-firearms are up 300%!

The steady decrease in homicides-with-firearms that occurred during the previous 25 years became an increase in the last 12 months.

The steady decrease in armed-robbery-with-firearms that occurred during the previous 25 years became an increase in the last 12 months.

There has been a dramatic increase in breakins-and-assaults-of-the-elderly.

At the time of the ban, the Prime Minister said "self-defense is not a reason for owning a firearm".

From 1910 to present, homicides in Australia have averaged about 1.8-per-100,000 or lower, a safe society by any standard.

The ban has destroyed Australia's standings in some international sport shooting competitions.

The membership of the Australian Sports Shooting Association has increased by 200% in response to the ban and in an attempt to organize against further controls, which are expected.

Australian politicians are on the spot and at a loss to explain why no improvement in "safety" has been observed after such monumental effort and expense was successfully expended in "ridding society of guns". Their response has been to "wait longer".
-Jenny Mouzos, the Australian Institute of Criminology, "Trends and Issues in Crime and Criminal Justice"

Anyone who has ever been in the heat of a firefight could tell you that no one who expected to survive such a battle would be sitting there behind cover COUNTING the rounds fired from his opposition.

revel wrote:

...Personally I just don't think it is all that common that people go around with a gun at the ready in their pockets just waiting to be threatened by a criminal. Usually guns are either used in hunting or sitting on gun racks or in closets (or something) in both cases tragic accidents happen too often or a depressed teenager goes on a shooting spree with their "parents" gun. Maybe store owners and people like that have guns waiting to be used. But just ordinary people don't go around with guns in holsters like a wild west cowboy movie....

I don't even want to guess where you might be from. What do you base your statements on??? What you see on the Channel 9 news? Sure you must have some notion that these horrific tragic accidents occur so often, because you probably see it every night on the television. If you want the truth, put down the remote and consult the FBI's crime stats.

I cannot stress how utterly and tragically WRONG you are about concealed carry and the thousands, no, the tens of thousands (at least!) of times each year guns are used BY PRIVATE CITIZENS to thwart crime. Contrary to your beliefs, as a matter of fact, many people do wear holsters and other concealment rigs, though not in such a hick manner as in "Wild West Cowboy" movies (which, pardon me for saying, seem to be where you get your facts). I can only make the impetuous assumption that you're not anywhere near the Northwest, or Texas, or the Midwest, or anywhere in the South, and if you are, the only question left to ask you is "Where have you been?" I have been carrying concealed since I was 21, and so has my girlfriend. In fact, also contrary to what you think, most licensees of Concealed Carry Weapon permits that I know are female, and logically so (I am from Texas). Even in Florida, where I go to college, many females carry weapons (some with and some without, hehe) and it is not uncommon to see them at the local gun range honing their skills.

Again, you are bringing up instances which are not the fault of guns, but of negligent parenting practices or just plain stupidity. Furthermore, the reason the 2nd Amendment has stayed alive is because it makes sense, and it saves lives. Maybe you're too comfortable to realize it, but there are other people in this nation less fortunate than yourself that don't have the luxury of an armchair to think all this nonsense up. They depend on guns to keep themselves and their families safe. The decision to own a gun is a personal choice. If you don't agree with it, that's fine, you don't need to own one, just as those who don't want to vote don't have to. But what you shouldn't do is advocate the ban of guns. You never hear about all those times someone used a gun to fend off a thug because it doesn't make a nice, gory, sensational story for the nightly news, but it happens, much more than any negligent deaths due to guns.

Sorry for all the rant, but I would encourage you to research the cold, hard facts. You might be surprised to learn, completely opposite to what the liberal news media would try to feed you, how integral guns are in our society. Guns are too often an issue over which the masses get way too emotional and attempt to pass legislation which affects thousands more people negatively than positively. Of course, it's easy for a parent whose child was killed by a negligent discharge (notice I say "negligent" and not "accidental") to blame the gun -- it's easier to live with than blaming themselves or another person.

So again, I implore you to check out the facts. Visit www.keepandbeararms.com for a few of those aforementioned instances that will never make the Channel 9 news. If you want a good read about women and concealed carry, check out www.paxtonquigley.com. I hope you can be persuaded to switch your malcontented attitude towards guns in favor of a more tolerant point-of-view.

Gun-related death more likely in U.S.: Statscan

According to Statistics Canada, the stereotype rings true: Canadians are far less likely to be killed with a gun than their American counterparts.

In a study released Tuesday called Deaths Involving Firearms, the agency says that in 2000, the rate of Canadian homicides involving firearms was just 0.5 out of every 100,000 people. The rate in America was almost eight times higher, or 3.8 per 100,000.

Gun-related homicides, suicides and accidents all declined in relation to the population size between 1979 and 2002, said the Statistics Canada study based on death certificates.

But the report explicitly declines to link falling firearms mortality with tougher gun-control laws brought in during the same period.

"You've got to remember there have been gun-control laws for most of this last century, of one sort or another," author Kathryn Wilkins said in an interview.

The data she studied simply can't differentiate between any number of cause-effect possibilities, whether they be fewer sports hunters, urbanization, an aging populace or tougher gun registration and storage rules.

Wilkins noted that the 1989 Montreal massacre, in which 14 young women were gunned down, coincided with a sharp, steady decline in gun deaths in Canada.

"Who's to say that tragedies like that don't have some influence, as well?" said the researcher - perhaps by raising public awareness of firearms storage issues, for example.