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Number of Iraq insurgents on the rise.

 
 
Reply Tue 7 Sep, 2004 03:25 pm
In the admittedly low-quality image, you will see that in April, there were 5000 insurgents in Iraq. In July, the number had jumped to 20,000.

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I contend that we have created a new writhing pool of America-haters in Iraq, and from that pool of people, Bin Laden and other terrorist leaders can and will recruit more terrorists. Plus, there is a chance that Iraq could just turn into a neverending war zone, or worse, a country with Al-Quaeda as a major power. I'm no military strategist, but that to me seems like a major cluster f*ck.

Now, can somebody tell me again how great the liberation of Iraq is going? And could somebody tell me how anyone can think that George Bush has handled the war on terror admirably again? Or why nobody in his administration has taken any heat from him about this major screw-up? Or why on earth voters should let such an incompetent run things for another four years?

P.S. I got this from a google search, from a NYTimes article that I can't seem to find again. Sorry.
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Dookiestix
 
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Reply Tue 7 Sep, 2004 03:35 pm
This is absolutely no surprise. When I protested back in February, we all knew this was going to happen. EVERTHING we predicted has basically come true.

It is the reason why hundreds of thousands took to the streets in February 2003, and September, 2004 at the RNC in New York.
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colorbook
 
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Reply Tue 7 Sep, 2004 03:39 pm
bookmarking
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Tue 7 Sep, 2004 03:42 pm
the only reason for the increase in insurgents is that Kerry is running for president and everyone knows he is our Hanoi John urging them on to more and more violence while president Bush only wants peace and democracy in Iraq. All democrats that vote for Kerry should be, must be, imprisoned to portect our own democracy. Let Freedom Ring!
and god bless america. amen and thank you all for coming here tonight. have a nice day.
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Dookiestix
 
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Reply Tue 7 Sep, 2004 03:44 pm
Yes, increased terrorism, out of wedlock births, obesity and overpriced Viagra can all be attributed and blamed on Kerry.

Why not?
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Tue 7 Sep, 2004 03:47 pm
Viagra is overpriced? oh my god, this may mean the end of the republican party forever!
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Dartagnan
 
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Reply Tue 7 Sep, 2004 03:47 pm
Well, you see, it's like this. The more insurgents there are in Iraq, the safer we are in the US. If they're fighting over there, they can't be terrorizing over here.

And that, as Bush tells us, is what this is all about. Fight the war on terrorism in other countries so that we'll be safe here.

It almost makes sense...
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Tue 7 Sep, 2004 03:48 pm
well of course it does D'art and dont eat with your fingers, use your entrenching tools!
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DontTreadOnMe
 
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Reply Tue 7 Sep, 2004 05:37 pm
Dookiestix wrote:
Yes, increased terrorism, out of wedlock births, obesity and overpriced Viagra can all be attributed and blamed on Kerry.


see? we should have stopped him after he sabotaged the hindenburg!!
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Dookiestix
 
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Reply Tue 7 Sep, 2004 05:47 pm
D'artagnan writes:

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Well, you see, it's like this. The more insurgents there are in Iraq, the safer we are in the US. If they're fighting over there, they can't be terrorizing over here.

And that, as Bush tells us, is what this is all about. Fight the war on terrorism in other countries so that we'll be safe here.

It almost makes sense...


So THAT'S what it's all about. Try telling that to the Iraqi people, who Bush keeps bragging that we were liberating from Saddam so they can enjoy their new democracy, when in fact we were actually just hoping that all the terrorists, murderers and thugs would come to Iraq to fight, killing thousands of innocent Iraqis in the process.

Hell, Saddam is probably proud of the growing insurgency. Bin Laden I'm sure is smiling right now. Al Qaeda has a massive martyrdom factory in the making over there.

And I thought all of this was all about weapons of mass destruction.
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DontTreadOnMe
 
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Reply Tue 7 Sep, 2004 05:56 pm
Dookiestix wrote:

So THAT'S what it's all about. Try telling that to the Iraqi people, And I thought all of this was all about weapons of mass destruction.


nope. it was about weapons of mass destruction before he voted against it, and then voted for liberating the grateful iraqi people.

one of whom has a brother here in the states, working with my wife.
he tells us; "my sister is glad that saddam is gone, but we can't go out. we are afraid we're gonna get killed.

so, some may be grateful, but most of them are still screwed, i guess.
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woiyo
 
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Reply Wed 8 Sep, 2004 06:42 am
To think that our actions against Iraq has created MORE hatred against the US and created MORE terrorists is not logical.

Go back in history throughout the 1980's and 90's and you will see that is not the case. Islamic extremests have been attacking US interests abroad consistantly and without much retailiation by this Govt, until we got hit at home on 9-11. Now, every action by Islamic extrtemests are reported by media.

As a result, this govt has taken a more aggressive approach against Iraq in order to remove them as a regional and global threat. Negotiations throughout the 90's to force Iraq to comply witht he cease fire agreement failed and the only 2 options were to continue failed negotiations or remove the leadership.
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Dookiestix
 
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Reply Wed 8 Sep, 2004 11:26 am
Uh oh, look who's just hatched. Another ex-Abuzzer rightwinger trying to cover for Bush.

Many experts in Government would sorely disagree with you, woiyo. You know, the one's who have been dealing with terrorism in an ever-changing and dynamic world for years.

Perhaps you missed the polls. Perhaps you didn't notice the hundreds of thousands of protestors at the RNC.

Islamic extremists weren't as POPULOUS and as SOPHISTICATED as they are now, woyio. Perhaps you missed that.

Perhaps you also missed that America just wasn't as hated during the Clinton years and/or prior. And especially during the Reagan years, when the Cold War was much more important (and prevalent) than terrorism.

Calling our war against terror a "crusade" is perhaps one of the dumbest gaffes to come from such a failed presidency.

I suggest you look up the Arab's sentiments regarding "crusades," then perhaps you'll understand why Bush is directly responsible for the increased hatred of America.
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woiyo
 
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Reply Wed 8 Sep, 2004 12:04 pm
Dookie - Yes, I can clearly recall how the Islamic estremeists reached out to embrace America in such a loving way during the Clinton years.

Yes, I recall the lovefest in the '93 bombing of the WTC, the attacks on our military bases, and the USS Cole, just to name a few.
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Dookiestix
 
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Reply Wed 8 Sep, 2004 12:05 pm
Good for you. Now recall what's happened in just these last four years (if it's possible)...
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Wed 8 Sep, 2004 12:06 pm
woiyo wrote:
Dookie - Yes, I can clearly recall how the Islamic estremeists reached out to embrace America in such a loving way during the Clinton years.

Yes, I recall the lovefest in the '93 bombing of the WTC, the attacks on our military bases, and the USS Cole, just to name a few.



Woiyo...Dookie is correct.

VERY, VERY CORRECT.

You ought really to consider the pathetic record of the administration you are championing.
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kickycan
 
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Reply Wed 8 Sep, 2004 12:07 pm
woiyo wrote:
Dookie - Yes, I can clearly recall how the Islamic estremeists reached out to embrace America in such a loving way during the Clinton years.

Yes, I recall the lovefest in the '93 bombing of the WTC, the attacks on our military bases, and the USS Cole, just to name a few.


And going into Iraq has changed all that. Laughing
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kickycan
 
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Reply Wed 8 Sep, 2004 12:09 pm
Oh my God. Frank is back. Welcome back, sir!
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woiyo
 
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Reply Wed 8 Sep, 2004 12:09 pm
Domesticly, no further attacks on our soil nor our bases (ex Iraq of course) is what I recall from the past 4 years.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Wed 8 Sep, 2004 12:12 pm
Hey Kicky....how's life been treating ya?

I've been spending lots of time in the city lately. Maybe we get a chance to say hi in person some day!
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