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Sun 5 Sep, 2004 03:19 pm
I have a little question...I'm just starting off in Art History, and I was wondering about how you define MAESTAS, PIETAS, and DEPOSITIONS, as opposed to like, other paintings of ALMOST the same thing? Does that make sense either?
Hmm.
You certainly know the definitions of these three terms.
They are all iconographical scenes, and all these three are to be found at the same time only during the Renaissance period.
I'm rather sure, someone can be more help - so just a
"Welcome to A2K"
here, Smartsux! :wink:
Actually, you did good. Renaissance was what I needed.
And do you perhaps live near Germany?
More "in" then "near", I believe :wink:
Oh, then in that case, yay!
And there's art, history and art history
No offend - just joking.
Really a nice part of Germany!
(You can see my town when looking at my "www" :wink: )
Is that true? Duccio was pre Renaissance, wasn't he?
http://employees.oneonta.edu/farberas/arth/Arth213/Duccio.html
The Renaissance happened later. I'll have to think back to who might be considered the first renaissance painter. Possibly Masaccio.
Duccio is thaugh to be an "early Renaissance sculptor whose work is characterized by its linear decorativeness" (here quoting from the Britannica, but others say the same, osso :wink: )
http://www.psupress.org/books/titles/0-271-01878-X.html
Yeah, early Gothic, right near Giotto and the Lorenzettis.
Plus Giotto himself has a Deposition.
Anyway, I think the difference relates to either size or subject matter, probably subject matter -
the deposition being a depiction of the Christ being deposed from the cross, I think, and the pieta featuring the madonna and son after he is taken from the cross.
I have to go back and look at the Duccio link. I've seen the Maesta, it is part of a big panel..
I don't think Duccio is early gothic, but I don't think he's early Renaissance either.
Walter Hinteler wrote:And there's art, history and art history
Yes, well I'm taking it AP as a Soph, which pretty much sucks all 'round.
But Giotto had a Deposition and he is most CERTAINLY not Renaissance, right? So maybe it has to do with up to and through the Renaissance.
Hmm, maesta means majesty, and the central part of the maesta panel is a madonna and child portrait.
http://www.ibiblio.org/wm/paint/tl/it-ren/
I have thought it was considered to start around 1415, but this has it at 1420.
This one might explain the difficulty, as it considers Giotto both the Father of the Renaissance and a proto-renaissance painter. Duccio was of course his time sharer.
http://www.eyeconart.net/history/Renaissance/early_ren.htm
This is quite a good link, actually, giving a concice description of the renaissance and some highlights on painters just before it and during it.
But back to the question, what was the question again? (I have to check if it was re the similarity or difference of those terms..)
BUt there are some paintings that are just "Madonna and Child"s, so why wouldn't they be Maestas?
Ok, I'll go with defining those terms relative to subject matter, and not by time period.
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