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Politicians vs. Historians

 
 
Reply Fri 3 Sep, 2004 01:03 pm
This explains everything! Truth is not relevant.

Politicians are not required to state the facts in a truthful or historically correct manner.

See Historians dispute Schwarzenegger's convention comments

Even if Schwartzenegger did not grow up in a "socialist" country occupied by "soviet tanks," it's okay for him to proclaim that he did so when changing historical facts is motivated by the campaign tactics of a politician.

According to Martin Polaschek, a law history scholar and vice rector of Graz University:

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Polaschek saw the moderate Republican governor's recollections at the convention as a tactical move. Schwarzenegger, he said, was "using the old Communist enemy image for Bush's election campaign."

"He did not speak as a historian, after all, but as a politician," Polaschek said.
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boomerang
 
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Reply Fri 3 Sep, 2004 01:05 pm
He also mentioned the Humphrey/Nixon debate which never happened.
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Fri 3 Sep, 2004 01:06 pm
well yeah but he met a guy once that---------and thats almost the same thing.
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Debra Law
 
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Reply Fri 3 Sep, 2004 01:16 pm
Boomerang!
Boomerang! ROFL You are correct! It was not possible for Schwartzenegger to watch a debate that never occurred.

Here's the scoop on presidential debates:

1960: THE FIRST DEBATE

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On the evening of September 26, 1960, Vice President Richard Nixon and Senator John F. Kennedy met in Chicago to debate the issues of their presidential campaign. Never before had there been a presidential debate. What attracted the candidates, of course, was television. That 1960 debate was broadcast live, coast to coast, and it reached between 60 and 70 million viewers. . . .


In the weeks leading up to the 1964 election, President Lyndon Johnson was well ahead in opinion polls and saw no reason to debate his Republican opponent, Arizona Senator Barry Goldwater. Richard Nixon also refused to debate when he again ran for president against Vice President Hubert Humphrey in 1968 and against South Dakota Senator George McGovern in 1972.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 3 Sep, 2004 01:17 pm
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Joe Nation
 
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Reply Fri 3 Sep, 2004 01:19 pm
Actors only read the lines. So what if Reagan didn't know that half of what he thought he knew came from scripts instead of history books.

(Shudder)
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Fri 3 Sep, 2004 01:19 pm
what a hoot!!!
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boomerang
 
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Reply Fri 3 Sep, 2004 05:36 pm
Thinking on this further...

For someone to get up on a stage and claim Nixon was their inspiration to join the Republican party.....

Okay, we know a lot more now than we knew then but still, please, Nixon? (Even if we have as vivid an imagination as Arnold.)

Californians should hang their heads in shame!
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Fri 3 Sep, 2004 05:51 pm
as california goes, so goes the nation. Gonna take a shotgun and disconnect my brain.
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blatham
 
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Reply Fri 3 Sep, 2004 07:47 pm
Quote:
(The reaction of my Austrian aunt and uncle: what can you expect from a bodybuilder, especially from one from Styria.)


Walter...that's hilarious.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Fri 3 Sep, 2004 07:50 pm
Oh course, what is truly pathetic in all of this is that the Governator can count on the ignorance of his constituency to both respond emotionally to the false image, while being sufficiently clueless as never to question the falsehoods entailed.
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blatham
 
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Reply Fri 3 Sep, 2004 07:56 pm
It is no coincidence that this administration counts on, and actively seeks to produce ignorance in the electorate (don't question, listen to fox, trust us only, distrust the folks at universities particularly). It is the way, always, of totalitarian wannabes.
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DontTreadOnMe
 
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Reply Fri 3 Sep, 2004 08:02 pm
Swift Board Veterans for Truth ???
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Setanta
 
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Reply Fri 3 Sep, 2004 10:00 pm
Can you say shills?
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