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Who the He11 is Zig-Zag Zell?

 
 
PKB
 
Reply Wed 1 Sep, 2004 05:23 pm
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Who the He11 is Zig-Zag Zell?
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Dartagnan
 
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Reply Wed 1 Sep, 2004 05:23 pm
Something I used to roll weed in?
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Sofia
 
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Reply Wed 1 Sep, 2004 05:42 pm
He says a Conservative Democrat.
A Scoop Jackson Democrat.

I don't understand, either.
How is a Conservative Democrat different than a Liberal Republican?

He should switch.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Wed 1 Sep, 2004 05:48 pm
Oxymoron, n., a pathetically absurd contradiction in terms, such as, liberal Republican . . .
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blueveinedthrobber
 
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Reply Wed 1 Sep, 2004 05:49 pm
a piece of **** traitor to his party...a whore trying to sell books.....
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Wed 1 Sep, 2004 05:55 pm
Aw

I find all this Conventional Repulicanism very tiresome.

I had hoped you might enlighten me as to who the hell zig zag could be.

bpb has some strong views on him. But who?
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Sofia
 
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Reply Wed 1 Sep, 2004 05:56 pm
This is a good reason why he's where he is tonight.

Conservative Democrats aren't welcome in their own party.
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panzade
 
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Reply Wed 1 Sep, 2004 05:57 pm
http://slate.msn.com/id/2105700/

A main theme of George Bush's re-election campaign is the notion that it's Democrats, and not Bush himself, who are responsible for the bitter partisanship in America today. Bush, after all, pledged in 2000 to be "a uniter, not a divider." So it's a little awkward for him that the United States is now about as united as an English soccer stadium. Republicans say their party occupies the mainstream, common-sense political center. The real problem, they argue, is that the Democratic Party has been driven left by monomaniacal special interest groups and the wild-eyed likes of Michael Moore, George Soros, and Whoopi Goldberg. Their favorite piece of evidence? Zell Miller.

Miller is a silver-haired Democratic senator from Georgia who has dedicated the twilight of his long career to excoriating his own party. The 72-year-old Miller has become such a heretic, in fact, that he will deliver the keynote address at next week's Republican convention in New York City. It's a strange twist of history, given that Miller delivered the keynote address on behalf of Bill Clinton in 1992 (also at Madison Square Garden, as it happens).

But the Miller of old is long gone. Nowadays Miller sounds like some kind of right-wing beat poet. Of Democratic values he says: "If this is a national party, sushi is our national dish. If this is a national party, surfboarding has become our national pastime." Of John Kerry: "You can't make a chicken swim, and you can't make John Kerry anything but an out-of-touch ultraliberal from Taxachussetts." National Democrats are "being cannibalized, eaten alive by the special-interest groups with their single-issue constituents who care about their own narrow agenda."
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PKB
 
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Reply Wed 1 Sep, 2004 06:05 pm
Sofia wrote:
This is a good reason why he's where he is tonight.

Conservative Democrats aren't welcome in their own party.


As the Log Cabin Republicans aren't welcome in their party either. :wink:
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Sofia
 
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Reply Wed 1 Sep, 2004 06:07 pm
They are, too.

They may not be getting their way at the top of the ticket--but they have a voice in our party.

They hold events, and are attended. They are gaining power.

Conservative Dems are shunted to the side.
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Joe Nation
 
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Reply Wed 1 Sep, 2004 06:10 pm
Arnold should switch before Zell does.

It's odd to long term watchers of politics like me to see the bright shining line between the two parties. I remember moderation, it's a dirty word now because of people like Newt, but once it was the best part of this republic. Representatives of both major parties sought ways of compromise, another term that has sadly fallen into disrepute, they sought the best ways of governing that benefited the majority of the people. Now, that has been lost, bi-partisanship has become one of the lost arts, something remarked about like Etruscan brassworkings, a distant memory.

Zell thinks his party has gone astray, Arnold (last night) thinks his party accepts and includes his views on right-to-life and gay relationships, they are both wrong. There is no room in either party for the half-measure, the reasoned judgement, the Political (Capital P) decision, we are a nation divided by idealogy, decided on by a few distinct thinkers, maybe fewer than we think.

The Democrats, being the least organized political organ ever created, appeal to me as they do to more than half of the nation, because of their fractiousness. The Republicans, whistling by the graveyard, as they try to shore up their support for their view of the world, seem to this long time watcher as a little on the desperate for love side. They have their ideas, what they want is acceptance that they are not crazy as loons in moonshine.
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nepalibabu35
 
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Reply Sat 11 Sep, 2004 11:40 pm
Who the He11 is Zig-Zag Zell?
Zigzag Zell is a hypocrite. He calls John Kerry a flip-flopper, but is a Democrat in the Republican Party. Not only that, but he also has made major policy revisions over the decade. Ex. He used to be pro-choice, but is now pro-life. Zigzag is a traitor to the Democratic Party, and is a Democrat no more.
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greenumbrella
 
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Reply Sun 12 Sep, 2004 09:20 am
Zell Miller has a screw lose and belongs in the GOP.

After all, the Republican party has a long history of providing safe harbor to the fringe elements in politics.

Think, David Duke -- former Grand Wizard of the KKK.
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