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wow, Paul Krugman goes bonkers

 
 
Reply Wed 1 Sep, 2004 01:36 pm
http://www.nationalreview.com/york/york200409010941.asp


I know some here agree with this sort of conspiracy theory, and aren't necessarily bonkers, just not very demanding of evidence.
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Dartagnan
 
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Reply Wed 1 Sep, 2004 01:39 pm
Makes sense to me. Bush was a nobody until the big boys decided he should be the GOP candidate in 2000. Next thing we knew, McCain was history and Bush was placed in the White House. Kind of like a wee doll positioned in a doll house...
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shaggydog
 
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Reply Wed 1 Sep, 2004 01:44 pm
D'artagnan, whatever gets you through the night.
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FreeDuck
 
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Reply Wed 1 Sep, 2004 01:47 pm
I missed the part in the article where he goes bonkers.
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Brand X
 
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Reply Wed 1 Sep, 2004 02:00 pm
This "coalition of malefactors of great wealth and the religious right" couldn't get Pat Robertson nominated for President, couldn't keep Jim Bakker out of prison, couldn't hush up Jimmy Swaggart's pussygate, and couldn't keep the Ten Commandments on display in courthouses in either Alabama or Texas. My high school student council had more power than that.

Meanwhile, the religious left perpetrated the unforgettable, unforgivable Jonestown massacre, Rev. Jesse Jackson won Democratic Primaries, and Rev. Al Sharpton got to debate as an equal with John Kerry, John Edwards and Howard Dean. A liberal attorney general ordered the assault on the Branch Davidian compound, with bloody results.

A delusional paranoid like Krugman cannot be reasoned out of his delusion. If you point out the distance between political facts and his imaginary conspiracy, he merely classifies you as part of the conspiracy so his circular reasoning goes on and on.
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FreeDuck
 
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Reply Wed 1 Sep, 2004 02:05 pm
Do you have some evidence of a 'religious left' movement and how it perpetrated teh Jonestown massacre? And what's wrong with Jesse Jackson winning democratic primaries?
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Wed 1 Sep, 2004 02:07 pm
FreeDuck wrote:
And what's wrong with Jesse Jackson winning democratic primaries?


There's nothing wrong with it, it's freakin' hysterical.
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CerealKiller
 
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Reply Wed 1 Sep, 2004 02:12 pm
Interesting specimen that Krugman.

I sincerely doubt the right wing is clever enough to come up with a conspiracy of any kind. Greed YES, conspiracy no.
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shaggydog
 
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Reply Wed 1 Sep, 2004 02:14 pm
Freeduck, why do you make others do your work for you?


http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/1998/11/12/MN85578.DTL
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JustWonders
 
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Reply Wed 1 Sep, 2004 02:26 pm
We're not the only ones that think Krugman's lost it.

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/006142.php

March 13, 2004
Krugman Accuses Bush of Plotting Coup

Traditionally, American politicians and commentators have muted their criticisms of political opponents when in foreign countries, so as not to weaken America abroad or convey to either our friends or enemies an image of division. That tradition, like so many others, now seems quaint; today, American leftists save their most venomous attacks on the administration for broadcast in foreign countries, where they are likely to go uncontradicted.

New York Times columnist Paul Krugman was interviewed in Australia a few days ago. Australian journalist and blogger Tim Blair caught Krugman in the act; as far as I know, the interview has gone unreported in the United States:

On Australia's Lateline program, Paul Krugman speaks his mind:

There was actually a kind of revealing moment recently - Bush gave an interview, was more or less dragooned into an interview on Meet The Press and the interviewer said: "Well, what if you lose the election?" And he said: "I'm not going to lose the election."

And the interviewer said: "But what if you do lose?" He said: "I'm not going lose the election." The possibility that they just would not regard it as a legitimate thing if someone else were to take power.

Krugman looked almost as paranoid as he sounded. Here's the actual exchange between George W. Bush and Meet the Press host Tim Russert:



What did Krugman expect Bush to say? "I am fully prepared to lose, and if I do, I expect I'll be sent into exile on the island of Elba"? Among Krugman's other terrified comments:

The vast right-wing conspiracy isn't a theory, it's quite clearly visible to anyone who takes a little care to do his home work.

Quite a few people as part of the Republican movement have said that God chose Bush to be President. I don't know whether they would accept the idea that mere mortal men should choose for him not to be President for another four years.


I guess we'll find out when "they" cancel the election and install Bush as God's official President-for-life. Krugman is insane.

Krugman is indeed insane; what do you suppose it will take for the Times to notice?
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FreeDuck
 
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Reply Wed 1 Sep, 2004 02:28 pm
shaggydog wrote:


Did you read that before you posted it? One religious wacko contributing to some city politicians in San Francisco does not a religious left make. And to take it further and accuse, I guess you're accusing those politicians, of perpetrating the massacre is a little over the top. Never mind the fact that he was basically exiled.
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shaggydog
 
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Reply Wed 1 Sep, 2004 02:36 pm
hehe duck, you wanted proof, I gave it to you, you ignore it. Nice try, I could frame your posts on this thread as how NOT to win debates. Like they say in law school, only ask the questions you already know the answers to, or sthu.


I was referred to this site because others thought it was a hotbed of informed give and take. I can get more organised liberal competition from my high school woodshop students.
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FreeDuck
 
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Reply Wed 1 Sep, 2004 02:39 pm
Amazing that you've summed up my posts as 'liberal competition'. Last I checked this was not the Debate forum though there is one if you'd like to check it out.

I didn't ignore your 'proof', in fact apparently I read more of it than you did.
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Dartagnan
 
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Reply Wed 1 Sep, 2004 02:44 pm
I read all of Krugman's columns. Again, he makes reasoned arguments, most of which I agree with.

Does not towing the Hard Right line mean one is going bonkers? If so, there are a lot of us out there. Beware!
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squinney
 
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Reply Wed 1 Sep, 2004 02:50 pm
Great to hear Krugman has another book coming out. I look forward to seeing how closely it matches the connections I have made between people, businesses, and foundations.

Thanks for the heads-up, shaggy.
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OCCOM BILL
 
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Reply Wed 1 Sep, 2004 02:53 pm
Is it really that hard to sell a book these days?
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Setanta
 
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Reply Wed 1 Sep, 2004 03:01 pm
shaggydog wrote:
hehe duck, you wanted proof, I gave it to you, you ignore it. Nice try, I could frame your posts on this thread as how NOT to win debates. Like they say in law school, only ask the questions you already know the answers to, or sthu.


I was referred to this site because others thought it was a hotbed of informed give and take. I can get more organised liberal competition from my high school woodshop students.


Then, by all means, retire to your secondary class in juridical woodworking, as i assure you you will not be missed here . . .
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shaggydog
 
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Reply Wed 1 Sep, 2004 04:28 pm
Oh Setanta, you won't be rid of me for a loooong time.


Duck, I have a nice big folder full of Jim Jones stuff. I live in the Northern California town referenced in that article, and the whole episode is fascinating. How you find that the article does not support Brand X's assertion of a religious liberal cabal isn't amazing, it is usual, and, again, boooooring.

It is prevarications like that, Duck, that eventually drive one crazy, as Krugman is and as you are nearing. Get some help.
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PDiddie
 
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Reply Wed 1 Sep, 2004 04:34 pm
OCCOM BILL wrote:
Is it really that hard to sell a book these days?


Hell yeah, just ask Zig Zag Zell.
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Dartagnan
 
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Reply Wed 1 Sep, 2004 04:36 pm
shaggydog wrote:
I have a nice big folder full of Jim Jones stuff. I live in the Northern California town referenced in that article, and the whole episode is fascinating. How you find that the article does not support Brand X's assertion of a religious liberal cabal isn't amazing, it is usual, and, again, boooooring.


That's rich. The Jonestown tragedy is an example of a liberal cabal? To accomplish what? Kill a lot of poor people?

Now if Jones had taken out a bunch of Halliburton executives during a Caribbean retreat, it might make some sense in terms of an overall strategy...
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