New Propulsion, the "EM Drive"

I never procrstinate so getting a star now will save us some time later hen everyones trying to pile into the "mother ship"

I should probably start a thread about it, but the prospects for crewed inter stellar flight are extremely poor, in my never humble opinion.

I see that alpha centauri has the known planets and Barnards was due to some bad math and dirty equipment.

Thats why Penzias and Wilson made busy cleaning the pigeon **** out of their radio telescope.

PSSST, never say never in science , Cave men , were sitting around saying "We aint never gonna have television".
I would imagine that the new James Webb orbiting telescope, due to go up in 2018, will do some glassing at exoplanets. Its gonna be focused on the infrared

We've got more than a dozen orbital telescopes up there now, so another one likely won't solve the problem of more demand for eyeball time than capacity.

I wasn't saying never, i was saying not any time soon. Why would the people of this planet accept severe material sacrifices, possibly for more than one generation, just to benefit a few hundred, or a few thousand colonists, at most--in a venture for which there will never be a return on the investment? That's why i say social resistance will likely be the biggest barrier. People read too much science fiction. They don't seem to ever invest much time in considering the practical aspects of space travel.

Doing something a few billions years ahead of any need is way beyond worrying about not procrastinating.

Depend on how you define return on investment such as taking out an insurance policy on the survive of the human race.

You see, this is why it's silly to talk to you. You must know almost nothing about human nature if you think the majority of humanity care more for the prospect of the long term survival (survival, dipshit, not survive) than they do for their immediate material security.

OK, eventually Ill buy that. However, weve got these very rich guys who look on such activities as just aniother way of keeping "score"> SO WHY NOT LET EM??

The privateley funded space race with Musk an all the others sounds interesting as hell and its way more interesting than the canned feed from NASA.

Ultimately, as the time approaches a few BILLION YEARS from now, it will become an immediqte concern that will occupy all of the planets minds. I only hope that the dying of our sun will be a gradual ascent into Kelvin temperatures so that the population can acclimate to the concept of "We gotta get the hell outt here"

What with all the possible star deaths that could be possible in our neighborhood, the approach of Andromeda, an the real possibilities of instantaneous death via a gamma burst from some unknown source, we should be paying attention.
(Ive always been a long range planner )

What we really need is a way to survive a vacuum metastability disaster.

that too. (I have no idea what that is?) Sounds serious

Not ridiculous, at all.
Physicists are dogmatised with 'potentials' - That's why they are lost in mathematical formulas that are 'pretty', if you like shite, and obscure because
They equate to bugger-all, in reality.

Hawkin is also a fraud - He accepts 'theories' and projects them as reality.

you know this how?

sounds like another clueless flunker of anything mathematical. If you dont know whats going on, try to ridicule those who do.

You know this, otherwise..... How?

Or, stick with dogma and defend yourself against it (religiously) anyway you can.
Show me 'ONE' Theory that works in real terms?

puhleeze. If you're really that stupid, I cant help you. Try reading , it opens many worlds(If you are able to understand whats written)

Yeah - That's an answer.......

You got to be kidding me as every damn day of your life is base on technology that theory had made possible.

Let see our world wide communication networks follow Maxwell theories and equations base on those theories to say nothing of the microwave you are likely to do your cooking with.

An of course SR theory is used in the GPS systems and so on.

I've seen this lots... Hawkin, Hawkins, Hawkings, how is it that people claim to know enough to slag off a one time Lucasian Professor of Mathematics, yet can't spell his name?