@George,
My remaining question, was that Howdy Doody? Yeh, I now recognise him. I saw him once, long ago, while not being very interested as a child in the audience. RKO studio, on 106th street.
I remember the matter of Howdy doody, and Hopalong Cassidy and the Yankee baseball team in 1950, vaguely of course, whatever their import that I didn't get.