How to know the true God

I know what you are saying. I could only be satisfied with the 'after' if tested to my limits 'before'. After that, you just don't have anything left to prove in a war of good and evil. There will be challenges enough after.

Whose free will was interfered with? They chose their path freely, no interference. They chose badly, then they were destroyed. If they didn't get their full natural lifespan neither did any innocents killed in wars, floods, etc. whether man made or supernatural.

Remember, it's not the final death. You still get your day in court (whether you want it or not, no free will about that either).

Wars are the consequences of man's will. The flood was the consequence of the god's will. So, again, you are showing your inability to distinguish between the two. You should really listen to Neologist when he says that this assurance that God will not interfere in our choices is essential to our quality of free will.

I'll listen if he chooses to elaborate but why should I ether accept your interpretation of Neo or get my theology from him regardless of what he meant?

In any case, great conversation.

Which god are you referring to?

every things around you prove the God so you can feel ur true God around you !

the flood is mentioned by different cultures but the ones that believe and teach the flood as a a punishment from God to human kind (but mainly to a group of angels that had perverted human behavior) are Judaism and Christianity. They believe in the same God so.... no point asking which god glenn was referring to

More of a consequence than a punishment. But your opinion noted.
Also, glad you noted the reason being perverted behavior, including the depraved behavior of certain materialized angels.

yes but i hope you accept the fact that to keep those angels from engage in such a "depraved behavior" Lot offered his daughters to those angels instead. I don´t won´t to act like a radical feminist but... isn´t that a despicable act from a father? to offer his daughter for the angels to sexually abused them so avoid a perverted act being committed? Isn´t that action itself a depraved behavior??

No. 'Books' was a side issue. Shakespeare was tapping into the mainstay of early religious belief - i.e. the fact that this life was 'nasty, brutish and short'. This resulted, for example, in those fortunate enough to accumulate wealth to donate to the church in order to secure their ticket for the next life. The contents of books was largely irrelevant to the illiterate masses in Shakespeare's time.

In modern times the 'sanctity of text' has largely been demolished by post-modernists, to the extent the 'holy books' are a particularly simplistic concept. 'Bible Study' seems a particularly futile occupation from that point of view. But having said that, our social conditioning owes a large debt to religious language, as is evident in comical one-liners like 'thank God I'm an atheist'.

Well, since we're talking about the Bible and the flood, I would guess that I'm referring to that god. But then, you knew that . . .

No, it was the god interfering in the free will choices of the humans, even though the assurance that God will not interfere in our choices is essential to our quality of free will.

You’re simply failing to rightly draw a distinction between allowing free will, and punishing (flood) those who exercise that free will.

Your opinion noted

The Nephilim were on the earth in those days—and also afterward—when the sons of God went to the DAUGHTERS OF humans and had children by them. They were the heroes of old, men of renown.

5 The Lord saw how great the wickedness of the human race had become on the earth, and that every inclination of the thoughts of the human heart was only evil all the time. 6 THE LORD REGRETTED THAT HE HAD MADE HUMAN BEINGS ON THE EARTH, and his heart was deeply troubled. 7 So the Lord said, “I WILL WIPE FROM THE FACE OF THE EARTH THE HUMAN RACE I HAVE CREATED—and with them the animals, the birds and the creatures that move along the ground—for I regret that I have made them.” 8 But Noah found favor in the eyes of the Lord.

I couldn't agree with you more actually, and in the process of that happening a lot of the context has been lost as well. But you see, the Bible's not like all the other books out there. Books contain knowledge but the Bible contains wisdom. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying you cannot find wisdom in books other than the Bible.

My point is that there's a difference between knowledge and wisdom. Knowledge without wisdom is practically useless, and wisdom without knowledge is not possible. The problem with knowledge, alone and devoid wisdom is that it lacks the experience one really needs to actually "know" something.

For example, a young mother has a toddler who has just reached the right height to touch the burners on the stove. While cooking lunch with her toddler running around nearby she says, "Do not touch the burner, it's hot!" The toddler looks at the mother, nods and, continues playing. Maybe toddler is not the right term. I am referring to the four to five year old range.

So at this point the the child has received knowledge from their mother not to touch the stove. (Though the mother was actually trying to impart wisdom) However the child, being a curious child, and not really understanding what the word "hot" actually IS or CAN be, walks straight over to the stove while Mom steps out of the room... for just a second... and touches the burner.

So what happens next? Screaming... crying... and an, "I told you so!" The child no longer has knowledge alone that the stove is hot the child actually KNOWS and has experienced exactly what that means. Therefore the knowledge turns into wisdom which will hopefully help save them from getting burned in future instances.

All books offer knowledge of some sort. Not always necessarily helpful or productive, but knowledge nonetheless. Some books offer wisdom within their pages. Wisdom that is only useful when applied to a person's life in the correct way. The problem is, other peoples knowledge will only take you so far, and just because its knowledge, that doesn't mean it's right or true.

Wisdom proves what is true.

I slightly disagree. I believe all books offer some knowledge and wisdom. It expands our universe beyond what we have already known and experienced.
Our son is an avid reader. He has one bedroom in his apartment full of books.
All I did was take them to bookstores when they were young, and told them it was okay to buy comic books too.
He now works at the library at the University of Texas in Austin. He earned his graduate degree there.

Oh there's some kooky books out there I think might qualify as useless knowledge. Perhaps because they are fictional, or the author was a raving lunatic... Lol But they are out there. However, there is a plethora of other books that are amazingly wonderful. I was an avid reader at one time.

The thing about books is that in our subjective world, there's always people who show interest in the funkiest subjects. One of my favorite contemporary author is Simon Winchester.

Read it again. Lot did not offer his daughters to angels.
Still a disturbing account. But not without reason.

No.
You missed the point. There is another god. The one I spell in lower case.