Anti-Americanism in Canada?

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Nothing new.
There are some media, and individuals
in Canada who have anti-American sentiments.
Perhaps, most militant among them is one of the editors of the daily newspaper "Toronto Star" (www.torontostar.com). His name is Haroon Siddiqui, a Pakistani. Please see his articles: http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/Co...id=969907621513
It's probably enough to see the headlines.
I cannot believe "Toronto Star" not only tolerates this disgusting tirades of hatred, but they appointed him as an editor.
Those people should be reminded of historical and cultural ties between Canada and USA, and a great deal of Canadian dependency on the American economy.

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Lets not forget the Anti-Canadian Americans out there as well, and while we're at it, lets not forget that the US depends on Canada as much as we depend on them.

You obviously haven't seen that hatred thrown at Canada for refusing to get involved in Bush's Iraq attack.

What goes around, comes around!

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Word up, Montana.

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Just to add, what does the editor being Pakistani have to do with anything? I thought they were your allies.

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Good question Cav. I was wondering about that myself.

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The link doesn't work Marcoo.

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Doesn't sound real anti-American to me...

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Rick d'Israeli wrote:

Doesn't sound real anti-American to me...

Nope, it sure doesn't.

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Not to me either. It's nothing I haven't seen many Americans say themselves.

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Montana wrote:

Lets not forget the Anti-Canadian Americans out there as well,

In an odd sort of way that would be a step up. Most Americans are barely aware Canada exists other than as that big blank area on the upper portion of the daily weather map.

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Just to add that Haroon Siddiqui is the Canadian PEN Vice President and Toronto Star editorial page Editor Emeritus .
He's not a Pakistani, btw, but a Canadian, who "worked for more than three decades for a broader and more inclusive definiton of Canadian identity" (got the Order of Ontario for having challenged "Ontarians to make newer immigrants and minorities an integral part of our civil society").
[Quotations from Government of Ontario websites]

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Acquiunk wrote:

Montana wrote:
Lets not forget the Anti-Canadian Americans out there as well,

In an odd sort of way that would be a step up. Most Americans are barely aware Canada exists other than as that big blank area on the upper portion of the daily weather map.

LOL! Oh they know we exist, but most think it snows every day, all year long. We live in shacks in the middle of the woods and we get around by dog sleds. Since we don't have grocery stores, the men go out to hunt and fish so we can eat. Of course we have to make our own cloths as well.

I was born and raised in the US and since I worked a lot with the public over there, I was amazed at what little people knew about their Canadian neighbors. When I was getting ready to move here, people were shocked that I was moving to a place that was so primitive and cold, haha!!!!

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It is evident from this and many other threads that Canadians appear to worry more about the United States than do Americans about Canada. Perhaps that is understandable considering the relative impacts the two countries have on each other.

Canada enjoys a very favorable balance of trade with the U.S. Economically at least, Canada needs the United States far more than the U.S. needs Canada. If there arose tensions between the two countries that affected movement and trade across the border, Canada would be the loser.

Considering the ubiquity of U.S. media and entertainment products it is easy to believe that Canadians think they understand the U.S. better than do Americans understand Canada. To the extent that these media represent the whole reality of America perhaps this assertion is even true. However, my own observations, in both countries, strongly suggest that ignorance and a willingness to prejudge others are about equally distributed on both sides of our commn border.

The most prominent difference on these threads seems to be the much greater inclination of Canadian posters to criticize the United States for faults they don't acknowledge in Canada.

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georgeob1 wrote:

It is evident from this and many other threads that Canadians appear to worry more about the United States than do Americans about Canada.

Perhaps, George, you missed, what the creator of this thread posted with his first and until now only post on A2K:

Marcoo wrote:

Nothing new.
There are some media, and individuals
in Canada who have anti-American sentiments.
Perhaps, most militant among them is one of the editors of the daily newspaper "Toronto Star" (www.torontostar.com). His name is Haroon Siddiqui, a Pakistani. Please see his articles: http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/Co...id=969907621513
It's probably enough to see the headlines.
... ... ... ....

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Walter,

Actually I read it and all the subsequent posts. My point was to return the dialogue to the original precept from which it had evidently departed.

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georgeob1 wrote:

It is evident from this and many other threads that Canadians appear to worry more about the United States than do Americans about Canada. Perhaps that is understandable considering the relative impacts the two countries have on each other.

Canada enjoys a very favorable balance of trade with the U.S. Economically at least, Canada needs the United States far more than the U.S. needs Canada. If there arose tensions between the two countries that affected movement and trade across the border, Canada would be the loser.

Considering the ubiquity of U.S. media and entertainment products it is easy to believe that Canadians think they understand the U.S. better than do Americans understand Canada. To the extent that these media represent the whole reality of America perhaps this assertion is even true. However, my own observations, in both countries, strongly suggest that ignorance and a willingness to prejudge others are about equally distributed on both sides of our commn border.

The most prominent difference on these threads seems to be the much greater inclination of Canadian posters to criticize the United States for faults they don't acknowledge in Canada.

Canada and the US need eachother equally and to say they don't is nonsense.

Haven't you noticed all the threads loaded with Americans bad mouthing Canada? I've seem plenty of them!

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Montana wrote:

Canada and the US need eachother equally and to say they don't is nonsense.

Haven't you noticed all the threads loaded with Americans bad mouthing Canada? I've seem plenty of them!

I guess it depends on how you define "need". My reference was only to its economic aspect. The greater economic dependence of Canada on the U.S. can be readily verified by the hard economic data published by both governments and several international organizations.

I have not noticed the "Americans bad mouthing Canada" to which you refer. Instead I have noticed several threads started and sustained by Canadians all dedicated to various defects of America and Americans. There have indeed been several American respondents on these threads who have countered with verbal attacks on Canada. Some of these have been intemperate had reflected ignorance and prejudgement on the part of the poster. Generally however this was no worse, and usally much less, than that which characterized the Canadians who started it.

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I generally like Canadians that I know and have felt no animosity toward Canada or Canadians until I feel my country and fellow Americans are unfairly smeared. It is difficult not to bristle at those times.

One things that I wonder about though is why A2K Canadians are so much more fascinated with American politics than they are their own, especially when they seem to universally hold the current U.S. administration in extremely low regard?

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I like Canadians. Does that count? Razz

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