AN ASSAULT ON SCIENCE

All the laymen arguing about this issue want to act like it's a scientific issue and that THEIR side has the right "science."

It aint about that. It's a political issue, that's all.

Best book I'm come across for understanding the challenges to long range predictions is The Long Thaw by David Archer. He also wrote a textbook on global warming.

...understanding that requires an understanding of ice sheet dynamics... which were explicitly excluded from the scope of the IPCC Fourth Assessment Report....Uncertainties about ice sheets mean it is difficult to know what a "safe" CO₂ concentration might be.

Never heard of the guy and, needless to say, aint read his book. I just skimmed an online book review which suggests he aint that sure about nuthin neither, though:

He agrees with the IPCC assessment.

Indeed, it would be foolish to ignore the political motivations involved.

In America at least, there is an organized assault on anything related to fact-finding, including science, and its organizers are predominantly political conservatives.

Many highly respected and eminqualified climatologists have severely criticized IPPC reports.

That is simply not true. Check the facts and you will see it's blatantly false.

I can't imagine why someone would bring up Al Gore--this thread is about science and scientists, and i believe i am correct in saying that Gore is not a scientist.

@Thomas,

Indeed, it would be foolish to ignore the political motivations involved.

I don't have an opinion. I don't have the qualifications to make a worthwhile assessment.

That is simply not true. Check the facts and you will see it's blatantly false.

The faithful don't pay a bit of attention to them.

Why should they? They have already gone on record announcing that they know the TRUTH.

I also say that your only object here is to trash the thread

"Science" is the new religion. It's like sectarian and denominational branches of the church. Everybody has god on their side, they all quote selectively from scriptural passages which "prove" that their narrow interpretation is absolutely correct, and nobody really knows what they're talking about. For about 90% of the population, their approach to science is faith-based.

As popularly used, the term "science," is about as well defined as "god" and is just as omnipotent, so long as it is "properly" understood to support the position I want to take. The modern approach to using and "understanding" science does not involve critical thinking. It involves adherence to dogma and is a tool for sophism.

Yeah, that global warming ****, that's just made up by Al Gore and his leftist cronies!

Global warming fraud: Iconic polar bear on melting ice cap a hoax

Images of periled polar bears sinking into arctic seas because of melting polar ice caps have become an iconic symbol of the devastating consequences of so-called global warming. But a new government investigation into the supposed science surrounding this now-infamous urban legend has revealed that it was likely nothing more than a pseudoscientific hoax...

...everyone remembers the scene from the 2005 Al Gore science fiction movie An Inconvenient Truth, where Gore had an animated clip of the polar bear in danger of drowning, trying to get onto a tiny ice flow made smaller, presumably by global warming.

Al Gore made movie stars out of drowning bears in his 2006 film An Inconvenient Truth with an animation sequence depicting a small patch of floating ice disintegrating under a struggling polar bear until it was left swimming alone in a vast expanse of open ocean. One couldn’t help to get a little teary-eyed at the notion.

So where does this now omnipresent notion come from that polar bears—famously strong swimmers—will perish in droves under the warming waves as the distance between the ice edge and the shore becomes too great to overcome? Let’s have a look-see.

...there were reports of drowning polar bears in 2007, and they were directly attributable to human activities. But they didn’t drown because of global warming, instead, they drowned because they had first been shot with tranquilizer darts and then slipped into the sea and were unable to be recovered.