@Tuna,
Its part of it. Mistakes are not mistakes but historical necessity. A process unfolds. Without pseudo errors (mistakes) there is no process. We don't want that, do we ?...Perfection requires VALUE, therefore made, of apparent imperfections.
@Fil Albuquerque,
Quote:Its part of it. Mistakes are not mistakes but historical necessity. A process unfolds. Without pseudo errors (mistakes) there is no process. We don't want that, do we ?...Perfection requires VALUE, therefore made, of apparent imperfections.
What is there without the process? Is there any knowledge or information?
I connect to what you're saying because it echoes another narrative: that the longing to speak the truth is a metaphor generator. Nietzsche said that when we think we're speaking the truth, we have forgotten that we only speak in metaphors.
Would you mind if I PM'd other thoughts? I don't want to pollute Nova's thread.
@Tuna,
Feel free to bring on your own personal ideas. I want personal intellectually sincere ideas, not copy paste. Thank you.
Welcome to a2k, lc.
Your link will no doubt be removed by the mods. It's considered spam.
As for me, I eschew off site links, videos, even jpegs. Your points made with your words are what matter to me. (I think I am a minority with that thought, as are you, a believer.)
I think it's OK to post your link in your profile.
Make an argument for an intelligent agent creator who could not create himself and thus its not the root of reality, without itself being the whole of reality. Minds are the product of imperfect wondering questioning beings, not of a God. God cannot be an agent if it represents completeness. God does not need to know or guess the future, he does not need to ask or to wonder, to speak or even do anything...God is more like a "mathematical rock". An intelligent designer for us, if one were to be assumed for granted, would be at best, a very intelligent extra terrestrial advanced species not, never, a God...
So bring on the arguments pal we shall see how much meat they have...
The true God is the real creator of the universe - more of him is not recognizable !
It is possible to recognize at the existence of the universe that the real creator of the universe really exists !
But that is incredibly difficult for this corrupt , ill mankind .
I know nobody else .
@manden,
manden wrote:
The true God is the real creator of the universe - more of him is not recognizable !
It is possible to recognize at the existence of the universe that the real creator of the universe really exists !
But that is incredibly difficult for this corrupt , ill mankind .
I know nobody else .
This god speaks only to you, then? What did the doctors say when you told them this?
@FBM,
The real creator of the universe did and does not speak to human beings !
@manden,
What are you? An Ewok? Did your doctors have anything to say about your species?
@FBM,
There was nothing to say about me .
@manden,
If you know what the real creator is thinking and what it says we must do, then it must have spoken to you somehow. Since it doesn't speak to humans, it follows that you are not human. Have your doctors identified your species yet?
@FBM,
So we have telepaths and mind readers now on top bitches ?
This forum never ceases to amaze me...
@Fil Albuquerque,
Or some non-human sentience specially chosen by this putative creator. Still waiting for the second shoe to drop.
It is ONLY possible to recognize at the existence of the universe that the
real creator of the universe - more of him is not recognizable - really exists !
Unfortunately this is incredibly difficult for this corrupt , ill mankind !
@Frank Apisa,
Sorry , that is my best , and it is very true .
If you grasp it or not .
@manden,
Quote:It is ONLY possible to recognize at the existence of the universe that the
real creator of the universe - more of him is not recognizable- really exists !
What is the significance of the highlighted part of your quote? It is reminiscent of Muslims saying 'Blessings upon his name' or something like that, after every mention of Mohammed.
@Leadfoot,
That shows that all religions are wrong !
