Quote:You've done nothing but make unsubstantiated claims that their
problems are our fault. If it wasn't clear before, I challenge you to give
specific evidence in support of this belief.
I'm going to break it down into some simple questions, which I would like you to answer, Brandon.
1. Is the US involved in a process which removes the natural resources from one country and uses them in another country, in large amounts?
2. Does the vast majority of the money that we pay for said resources go to the people of that country, or to its' leaders?
3. Are we aware of the fact that said leaders do not support the economies of their countries with said money, but rather re-invest it in the western countries?
4. Are we aware of the massive human rights violations perpetrated by some (if not most) of these countries?
I think you would have a hard time saying that any of those were untrue.
That being the case, we are participating in a system which is screwing over the common man of the middle east royally. I certainly don't have to explain this to you; you already understand how it works. You just refuse to believe that our actions have any reprecussions whatsoever, or that those reprecussions could be partially our fault.
From U.S. Oil Policy in the Middle East, 1997:
Quote:Emphasizing defense of the oil states from external threats ignores the more serious problems of domestic instability and political opposition to the ruling Gulf monarchies. The U.S. should engage these governments on questions of accountability to their citizens and their own constitutions and urge them to open up their systems to allow for greater public participation.
Only through serious steps toward democratization can these governments avoid the destabilization of Islamic and liberal activism. Kuwait is an example where even limited steps toward democratization reinforced stability and helped undermine security threats to the monarchy. Kuwait's Shi'i, 25% of the population, participated in the (male-only) parliamentary elections and won many seats. The U.S. could save tens of millions of dollars in military spending in the Gulf oil states, and perhaps U.S. lives as well, if the socioeconomic and political conditions of the most deprived Shi'i populations were improved.
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From Causes of terrorism:
Quote:While on the surface, these may seem like completely unrelated events, they all embody a similar core philosophy. These conflicts are each characterized by having one group which sees itself as being tragically oppressed, and seeks freedom or prosperity through the annihilation of an 'evil' group of oppressors. Sound familiar? It should. The comparison between the scenarios mentioned above and the situation that prompted the September 11th attacks is obvious. America is the perceived oppressor at which Bin Laden directs all of his rage.
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There are valid, psychological reasons why people join terrorist organizations. Remember, for all that Bin Laden hates the US, and wants us to 'convert to Islaam(yeah, right)' the average terrorist who joins his ranks, who fleshes out his army, is angry. Angry with the fact that we keep making their leaders rich, and keeping them poor, while not giving a damn about the atrocities their governments perform upon them. These are cold, rational thoughts when you or I talk about them; the future terrorist sees the reality of the situation.
To return to your original statement, Brandon, it seems rather childish to believe that we are not responsible for the region. It seems equally childish to believe that the terrorists are acting in a vacuum, and nothing we have done has made them come to the current place they are at, at all.
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