@layman,
The thing is, could you beefs stop with the bludgioning?
Frank went on and on forever more; I personally remember something like 2436 times, or there abouts, of repetitions about the word 'belief'.
You like throwing your twang jive.
If you insist on doing that, add the music. I miss your thread.
I don't dislike you but you tend to meld non believers with evil scumbuckets, all dawkins all the time. Most of us aren't that way and you jump to that.
Me, I've never read Dawkins or Harris, no plans to.
I am simply sans belief. Do a little learning.
Live with it.