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boston exposes the lie that america is more safe

 
 
George
 
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Reply Tue 27 Jul, 2004 05:12 pm
au1929 wrote:
With the rise of Islamic fundamentalism and world events the world has become much more dangerous. A little inconvenience if it results in making attendance to the event more secure is a small price to pay. The people who complain of inconvenience would be the first ones to demand an explanation if anything happened.

The key phase here is "if it results in making attendance to the event more secure". They've got a four-lane highway leading into Boston narrowed to two lanes from six o'clock on. What does that accomplish? Well, it will slow down a blitzkreig launched from New Hampshire, but other than that, I can't imagine. (By the way, it doesn't inconvenience me. I work north of Boston.)
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hamburger
 
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Reply Tue 27 Jul, 2004 06:28 pm
shiphol/amsterdam airport : during the 1970's we flew into shiphol a number of times and there were usually armoured personnel carriers on the runway. in frankfurt/germany there are usually heavily armed border-patrol officers in attendance. when we flew out of frankfurt last fall there were armoured personnel carriers that escorted the planes coming in from the middle east to a secure location away from the main terminal for unloading and loading of passengers. as far i know, luggage control at german airports is handled by the "bundes-grenzschutz" (borderpatrol). they were always quite friendly to us, but i never thought it would be a good idea to fool around with them (too much firepower). ... i remember when we were leaving vienna in october 2001. all cars were stopped prior to entering the airport perimeter by fully outfitted swat-teams. the limousine driver told us to be sure not to do anything that might arouse the suspicion of the swat-team members or we would be in for a long wait (we behaved !). hbg
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the reincarnation of suzy
 
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Reply Tue 27 Jul, 2004 08:58 pm
Brandon9000 wrote:
the reincarnation of suzy wrote:
"Better safe than sorry" is paranoia! Aren't people searched on the way in? Everyone is forced to throw their trash on the floor. Stupid.

Well, assuming that no one tries to attack the convention, then it's stupid. But if some group actually does plan to do so, then it is possible that they might be resourceful and could defeat spotty security. People who are willing to die in order to kill are very dangerous.


Well if that's the way we have to think, I guess it's safe to say we are less safe than ever before.
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the reincarnation of suzy
 
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Reply Tue 27 Jul, 2004 09:01 pm
au1929 wrote:
With the rise of Islamic fundamentalism and world events the world has become much more dangerous. A little inconvenience if it results in making attendance to the event more secure is a small price to pay. The people who complain of inconvenience would be the first ones to demand an explanation if anything happened.


Ditto my last post.

The least they could do is haver ushers come round every so often with trash-collection baskets, or something!
I guess if I were able to sneak something in, I could settle for placing it under a seat or in the bathroom. They still have seats and toilets, though.
I think it's a bit extreme.
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Harper
 
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Reply Wed 28 Jul, 2004 04:03 am
Randi Rhodes, Air America, says that if the terrorists hates us for our freedom, they need to come to Boston. They will no longer have a reason to hate us.
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Brandon9000
 
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Reply Wed 28 Jul, 2004 08:10 am
the reincarnation of suzy wrote:
Brandon9000 wrote:
the reincarnation of suzy wrote:
"Better safe than sorry" is paranoia! Aren't people searched on the way in? Everyone is forced to throw their trash on the floor. Stupid.

Well, assuming that no one tries to attack the convention, then it's stupid. But if some group actually does plan to do so, then it is possible that they might be resourceful and could defeat spotty security. People who are willing to die in order to kill are very dangerous.


Well if that's the way we have to think, I guess it's safe to say we are less safe than ever before.

That's short term thinking. The president's policies are designed to make us safer in the long run, not necessarily at every individual moment after we begin to act. When you first begin to fight a strong, numerous enemy who must be opposed, it is entirely possible that you are initially less safe, but that doesn't mean that you don't need to oppose that enemy. For example, if some country had been dominated by drug cartels for decades and a new government came in and began acting vigorously to arrest the drug peddlers, it is entirely possible that it would initially spark great retaliation from the ciminals, but it would still be the right thing to do.
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