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I Think I know Why A2K is Left Leaning

 
 
djjd62
 
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Reply Sun 4 Oct, 2015 03:20 pm
I Think I know Why A2K is Left Leaning

if this is true, it could be a physical deformity

perhaps it's left leg is shorter than the right

or

it's right leg is longer than the left
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Sun 4 Oct, 2015 03:24 pm
@hawkeye10,
hawkeye10 wrote:

Remember too that I am well aware that journalism in america tends to run far to the left,


you're barking mad

American traditional media is right-wing to an embarrassing degree
farmerman
 
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Reply Sun 4 Oct, 2015 03:25 pm
@hawkeye10,
I get a smile at the propaganda that you parrot back. It demonstrates the rules of "how we limit our sources of input to only those things that we first agree with"

Theres an equally hugely funded right wing media that probably spends half its dough demonizing the existence of a "left wing media" and yet denying the existence of their own, As if noone already didnt know.


Like Mark Twain wrote ina piece on the electoral process
'I will not stoop so low in the cesspool of character assassination unlike my lecherous wife beating opponent"




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ehBeth
 
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Reply Sun 4 Oct, 2015 03:25 pm
@eurocelticyankee,
eurocelticyankee wrote:

I bet you were smoking ganja <snip> when you wrote this.


I think there's a lot of truth to this.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Sun 4 Oct, 2015 03:27 pm
@ehBeth,
I think we have a pretty evenly split mass of right wingers, left wingers, really whacko extremes (of both sides) and the rest are just foreign scum.
ehBeth
 
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Reply Sun 4 Oct, 2015 03:30 pm
@farmerman,
I think there's a countable number of true left-wing posters remaining.

Most of the Americans who self-identified as left (are there any of those left?) always seemed centre/centre-right.
farmerman
 
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Reply Sun 4 Oct, 2015 03:31 pm
@ehBeth,
I love discourse between the two sides. Ive learnt much from both (except for the berserker name callers and chanters, most of whom miss the points in favor of just making snotty remarks).

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djjd62
 
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Reply Sun 4 Oct, 2015 03:32 pm
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:
and the rest are just foreign scum.


hey, i resemble that remark
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sun 4 Oct, 2015 03:33 pm
@ehBeth,
ehBeth wrote:

hawkeye10 wrote:

Remember too that I am well aware that journalism in america tends to run far to the left,


you're barking mad

American traditional media is right-wing to an embarrassing degree

You are clearly delusional

Quote:
Compared with 2002, the percentage of full-time U.S. journalists who claim to be Democrats has dropped 8 percentage points in 2013 to about 28 percent, moving this figure closer to the overall population percentage of 30 percent, according to a December 12-15, 2013, ABC News/Washington Post national poll of 1,005 adults. This is the lowest percentage of journalists saying they are Democrats since 1971. An even larger drop was observed among journalists who said they were Republicans in 2013 (7.1 percent) than in 2002 (18 percent),

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2014/05/06/just-7-percent-of-journalists-are-republicans-thats-far-less-than-even-a-decade-ago/

In an environment that scorns a Cronkite level of attempt at objectivity the journalists personally skewing left pulls the reporting to the left. This is just basic understanding here Beth, you are embarrassing yourself.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Sun 4 Oct, 2015 03:34 pm
@ehBeth,
Quote:
Most of the Americans who self-identified as left (are there any of those left?) always seemed centre/centre-right
As set once said, All of us are conservative about certain things.
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Real Music
 
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Reply Sun 4 Oct, 2015 04:16 pm
@hawkeye10,
From what I have observed, you are probably correct in regard to A2K being left leaning. I am for the most part left leaning myself. That is just a statement of fact. I am a proud Elizabeth Warren/Bernie Sanders democrat. I am very active and do have a lot of fun in the real world. I only occasionally post on A2k. A2k is one hobby out of many. I do notice that A2K members seem to mostly post replies on topics involving religion, relationships, or politics. Other topics gets very little response from A2K members. I wish A2K members would post more replies to other topics.
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najmelliw
 
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Reply Sun 4 Oct, 2015 04:58 pm
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:

I think we have a pretty evenly split mass of right wingers, left wingers, really whacko extremes (of both sides) and the rest are just foreign scum.


+1 for foreign scum here.

Also, what is left and what is right? I once had a truly amazing discussion with my friend about whether the German Nazi's were on the political left(his point of view), or right(my point of view).

We never resolved this discussion... Except on agreeing it's probably safest to just call it bad, no matter where it ended up on the political spectrum.
Real Music
 
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Reply Sun 4 Oct, 2015 05:25 pm
@najmelliw,
By the 1980s definition Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, and Bill Clinton would all be considered to be moderate Republicans.

By 2015 definition Ronald Reagan would be considered to be a conservative Democrat.

I am pointing this out to show that what is liberal, what is conservative, what is right wing, and what is left wing is all relative.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sun 4 Oct, 2015 05:49 pm
@Real Music,
Quote:
By the 1980s definition Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, and Bill Clinton would all be considered to be moderate Republicans.

Sure, but the D's like to ignore that the nation has been moving to the Right ever since the Carter debacle.
Real Music
 
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Reply Sun 4 Oct, 2015 11:13 pm
@hawkeye10,
I agree that for a long time the Republican party has been pulling Democratic party to the right. It probably started during the Reagan administration and has continued all the way up to the present time. Throughout that time the Democratic party had not put up much of a fight to prevent that from happening. The Tea Party, ever since Obama was first elected to the White House, accelerated the movement to the right. I also, believe that Democratic party as well as the country has more recently started moving back to the left. Examples includes gay marriage, legalized pot, anti-war, occupy wall street movement, black lives matter movement, big increases of minimum wages in some states, more acceptance of climate change science, growing interest in solar and wind energy, increasing number moratoriums of death penalty at state levels. In the last 2 or 3 years there also has been a dramatic growth in interest of Senator Elizabeth Warren, the mother of the Occupy Wallstreet movement. She has essentially become a rock star. Also, Senator Bernie Sanders has become a star in his own right. The talk about repealing or replacing the Affordable Health Care law (Obama Care) has mostly disappeared. Don't get me wrong. The country in some ways still leans right. I am just saying I am seeing the beginnings of a leftward trend and that trend seems to be getting stronger. In many ways I hope this leftward trend continues.
Setanta
 
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Reply Mon 5 Oct, 2015 02:06 am
The terms left and right for political positions come from the French National Assembly which convened in la Salle du Manège, the old riding school at the Tuileries Palace in Paris, where the King and royal family had been taken after they were escorted from Versailles. From the desk at which the President of the assembly sat, the constitutional monarchists were on the right, and represented those who thought the revolution had gone far enough; to the left were the Jacobins, who wanted to dispense with the monarchy altogether, considering the King untrustworthy, and calling for more revolutionary reform. This latter group were also known as the girondins, or Girondists, for the region of France from which most of its early members came.

But more significantly, the majority of members sat behind and above those two factions (in the bleachers, the cheap seats) and were known as la Montagne, the mountain. They eventually coalesced into the most radical faction under the leadership of Maximilien Robespierre. Robespierre eventually took control of the National Assembly, and ruled through the Committee for Public Safety, which got busy cutting off the heads of those with whom they were displeased.

Let that be a lesson to you, all you wimpy political pussies.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Mon 5 Oct, 2015 02:57 am
@hawkeye10,
hawkeye10 wrote:
I was presenting a thesis and I was looking to see if anyone could debunk it.


A thesis is considerably more than three sentences long. You posted an opinion based on ignorance and an over inflated ego. There's nothing to debunk, it's just plain wrong.
Setanta
 
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Reply Mon 5 Oct, 2015 02:58 am
@izzythepush,
Probably based on smoking too much dope, too . . .
izzythepush
 
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Reply Mon 5 Oct, 2015 03:00 am
@Setanta,
He's got to get his 'Zen' from somewhere.
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hingehead
 
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Reply Mon 5 Oct, 2015 02:58 pm
@Setanta,
I'm glad Set bought up what we mean by left and right. I was taught, rightly or wrongly, that it was a political distinction. With fascism on the far right and anarchy on the far left, as you moved toward the centre you'd pass through democracy.

It gets messy when you bring economics into it because unfettered capitalism looks a lot like anarchy and communism looks like fascism. Some highly democratic countries are socialist and who knows what China has now.

Then when you consider the third leg of social policy these terms are usually mapped to progressive/liberal or conservative. People, and countries, manage multiple positions on just those three facets, which of their linearity are over simplified.

I guess what I'm saying is, after long consideration, is that left wing is anyone who disagrees with Hawkeye.
 

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