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Does "Alone among illusions is my Illusory Body true" mean ...?

 
 
Reply Thu 25 Jun, 2015 09:44 pm
Does "Alone among illusions is my Illusory Body true" refer to "among illusions, my illusory body alone is true"?

Context:

THE SONG OF DEEP-FIELD TARA
by Kunzang Sherab

I am Tara,
Crusher of all obstacles,
Liberator of all beings,
Yet, verily, when all are liberated,
None have been liberated;
Wherefore? Because as the Tathagata has said,
No being, however born -- in whatever form --
With whatever nature of perception or mode of thought
as its way of being,
Has any independent existence whatsoever.
Alone among illusions is my Illusory Body true;
Wherefore? Because I am the Truth that is known by undeceived compassion;
Like the moon whose darkness disappears as it waxes,
One who relies upon me experiences no retrogression.

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http://www.american-buddha.com/
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Reply Fri 26 Jun, 2015 07:16 pm
@oristarA,
No one likes to answer this?
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Reply Fri 26 Jun, 2015 08:37 pm
@oristarA,
"Alone among illusions is my Illusory Body true"

** accurate interpretation.
This is a direct, grammatically correct reorganization of the sentence.
It can be taken no other way. It is the singular use of the original phrase.
100% equal.

"Alone among illusions, my Illusory Body IS true "
oristarA
 
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Reply Fri 26 Jun, 2015 09:09 pm
@GorDie,
GorDie wrote:

"Alone among illusions is my Illusory Body true"

** accurate interpretation.
This is a direct, grammatically correct reorganization of the sentence.
It can be taken no other way. It is the singular use of the original phrase.
100% equal.

"Alone among illusions, my Illusory Body IS true "


Thanks.
But it would be equal to saying "only my illusion is true, and yours, NO!" It sounds domineering, not convincing.
GorDie
 
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Reply Sun 28 Jun, 2015 05:28 pm
@oristarA,
"But it would be equal to saying "only my illusion is true, and yours, NO!" It sounds domineering, not convincing. " ~ OristraA

That is a false claim.
{and also, I am wondering how you got red text... I don't seem to have that option. I searched.}

"Alone among illusions is my Illusory Body true" -

ALONE, does not mean ONLY.
Alone indicated that the Body is "lonely".
As if to say, there is no compassionate, sympathetic/understanding, comforting companionship.
Only voices and faces surround the author and they have no friends.

"Among Illusions " indicates that the lonely character is SURROUNDED by things it cannot connect with. As if to say, they cannot be real if they can be so distant and inconsiderate.

"IS my Body" / "My Body Is" : means that the body exists in the previously established situation.

"True." In the condition of a poetic metaphor is not comparative to a Scientific Fact, or the true nature of Truth.
By writing a cynicle poem... - THIS IS a cynical poem -
The definition of Truth has been obscured by "Depression".

Thus; He is not saying nothing else is true,

the author is saying,

"Alone among the illusionary existence of these heedless, aimlessly wondering, ignorant people who do not know me, of all the things that I perceive and understand, only what I think and see is truly founded on facts [Others ramble on about nonsense.]",


and furthermore,
"And LEST a person demonstrate logic, then I am right."
as that notion naturally exists whether written or not, as the number 0 is before every other number 01.00 / 045.000, 00 / 099999.9900
oristarA
 
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Reply Sun 28 Jun, 2015 08:07 pm
@GorDie,
Good argument.
But I am hesitating to agree your point about "THIS IS a cynical poem".
The poem is put on the headline of American Buddha site, and it talks about Truth in their eye that is strongly promoted by Tathagata, the Buddha, "One who relies upon me experiences no retrogressio". The site seems to take it seriously. Can it be cynical in this way?
GorDie
 
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Reply Sun 28 Jun, 2015 10:26 pm
@oristarA,
Yeah no kidding.. what was I thinking..

. My description BOTH times was wrong. I took that poem so out of context.
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