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NYT OP-ED George Bush's resolve in Iraq pays off

 
 
swolf
 
Reply Tue 6 Jul, 2004 03:09 am
http://www.iht.com/bin/print.php?file=527984.html

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David Brooks: George Bush's resolve in Iraq pays off
David Brooks NYT
Tuesday, July 06, 2004

WASHINGTON On Sept. 8, 2003, Bush administration officials awoke to find that L. Paul Bremer had written an article in The Washington Post laying out a seven-step plan for the democratization of Iraq. Bremer hadn't cleared the piece with his higher-ups in the Pentagon or the White House, and here he was describing a drawn-out American occupation. Iraqis would take their time writing a constitution, and would eventually have elections and take control of their country. For some Bush officials, this was the lowest period of the entire Iraq project. They knew they couldn't sustain an occupation for that long, yet they had no other realistic plan for transferring power to Iraqis. The Governing Council, with its rotating presidency, was hopeless. The whole thing could fall apart.

Pressure mounted for a quicker transfer of sovereignty. In October, Donald Rumsfeld called Bremer home for all-day consultations on how to get a serious interim Iraqi government. Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Husseini al-Sistani, the Shiite leader, was demanding elections much sooner, while the official U.S. position was that they should be put off. "How did we end up not being in favor of elections?" President George W. Bush asked.

Finally, on Nov. 7, Bremer called Condoleezza Rice. Maybe it was time to transfer sovereignty first, and speed things up. Four days later Bremer was at the White House, for a meeting of the minds. That set in train what became known as the Nov. 15 agreement. Sovereignty would be transferred to Iraqis on June 30, 2004.

The think-tank johnnies and the rest of the commentariate went into their usual sky-is-falling mode. This is pure politics, many said. Karl Rove doesn't want to fight the next elections with 100,000 troops in Iraq.

In fact, the members of the sneering brigade had it backward. The United States had to transfer sovereignty precisely so it could stay. This was the only way to get enough legitimacy to fight the insurgents and work on rebuilding. And from those weeks on, the administration was unwavering in its support of the June 30 transfer. Politically, at least, its constancy is paying off. Since the transfer I've had candid conversations with four senior officials with responsibility for Iraq. They are more cautiously optimistic than at any time over the past year.

Iraq now has a popular government with a tough, capable prime minister. Democratic institutions are emerging, including a culture of compromise. Clerics are now preaching against insurgents. Sistani calls them sinners.

Thanks, in part, to Bremer's decisiveness, the political transition is going well. It's when you turn to military matters that things look tough. The Iraqis and the Americans now face a choice. U.S. troops can take advantage of this hopeful moment to mount a full-scale assault on the insurgents, or they can hang back and hope that the Iraqis themselves can co-opt or defeat the fighters.

It's clear that, with the Iraqis leading and the Americans assenting, there will be no broad offensive against the insurgents anytime soon. This policy seems to be based on a series of guesses: First, that U.S. aggressiveness only exacerbates the insurgency. Second, that Prime Minister Iyad Allawi can cajole or bribe some insurgents into becoming productive members of society. Third, that Iraqis will be able to build a better intelligence force than the Americans and that anti-insurgency efforts will be more effective when more Iraqis are trained and supplied. Fourth, that insurgents will not be able to use this period, and their impunity in Falluja, to organize even more devastating assaults.

These are all questionable propositions. It could be that in a month, Allawi and Bush will have to unleash U.S. forces. Still, stepping back, two things are obvious. This administration can adapt, and stick to a winning strategy once it finds it. Second, the Iraqis really do have a galvanizing hunger for democracy.

Despite the normal flow of bad news, that makes the long-term prospects for success brighter than they appeared a few months ago.

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Wilso
 
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Reply Tue 6 Jul, 2004 03:29 am
It paid off for all his oil buddies. Not sure how it paid off for the 10000 people he killed.
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Harper
 
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Reply Tue 6 Jul, 2004 05:31 am
Please edit your thread title. The piece is in an op-ed piece not an article.

Brooks is engaging in wishful thinking here, the type of rose-colored wishful thinking that lead to over 50,000 American deaths in Vietnam. So the US is just going to lay back and wait for the insurgents to become good guys? This is madness.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Tue 6 Jul, 2004 05:35 am
The Good Serb Christian Soldier here has a very, very partisan point of view to peddle. You're wasting your time attempting to discuss anything with swolf . . .
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McTag
 
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Reply Tue 6 Jul, 2004 05:42 am
Blair considers an apology (to prevent a political backlash)

Blair to offer partial apology over war
By Andrew Grice, Political Editor
06 July 2004
Tony Blair is preparing to issue a partial apology over Iraq in response to strong criticism of Britain's pre-war intelligence about Saddam Hussein's weapons of mass destruction expected in the Butler inquiry report next week.
The Prime Minister has rejected the idea of saying "sorry" for the war when the investigation reports a week tomorrow, but is being urged by close advisers to admit that mistakes were made in the gathering of the intelligence and its use by the Government.
In a Commons statement on the day the report is published, Mr Blair will try to finally end debate over the Iraq war by promising to implement the inquiry's recommendations about the use of such intelligence in the future.
http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/politics/story.jsp?story=538516
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swolf
 
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Reply Tue 6 Jul, 2004 06:41 am
Wilso wrote:
It paid off for all his oil buddies. Not sure how it paid off for the 10000 people he killed.



Again the same old tired, idiotic claim, it's about oil.

I mean, if you're going to peddle bullshit, at least make the bullshit decent enough that it doesn't immediately insult people's intelligence. It would have been literally hundreds of times cheaper just to buy the oil from Saddam Hussein or get it from him in sweetheart deals like Jake Shellac was doing.

Moreover, the United States has oil options. We have vast reserves of offshore oil off of Florida, California, and Louisiana, we have hundreds of years worth of shale oil at present rates of use, and there isn't really that much difference between 45$/barrel and the $60/barrel price we've always heard bandied about for shale oil. If it came straight down to it, we could stop importing oil today, live on our capped wells for the year and a half it took to bring the shale oil on line, and watch OPEC and AlQuaeda starve. If it were me, I'd do it immediately.

This was about terrorism and about poisoning the US senate office building with anthrax.. It was about paying the families of suicide murderers, about running a school for terrorism with mockup airliners, about Oklahoma City and the towers bombing of 93, about Mohammed Atta meeting with Iraqi agents in Prague, about the three-way trade with North Korea and Libya and the attempt to put Europe in range of nuclear tipped missiles which Khadaffi has now publically renounced, and about things like that generally.

If you democrats go on living in your stupid alternate reality/dream world long enough, we'll either end up having to make Death Valley or some such place into an insane assylum for you, or we'll end up having to split up the country.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 6 Jul, 2004 06:49 am
[quote="swolf] We have vast reserves of offshore oil off of Florida, California, and Louisiana, we have hundreds of years worth of shale oil at present rates of use, and there isn't really that much difference between 45$/barrel and the $60/barrel price we've always heard bandied about for shale oil. If it came straight down to it, we could stop importing oil today, live on our capped wells for the year and a half it took to bring the shale oil on line, and watch OPEC and AlQuaeda starve. [/quote]

My Lord Shocked

swolf wrote:
This was about terrorism and about poisoning the US senate office building with anthrax..


Pardon? Shocked



However: I'm not
Setanta wrote:
...wasting your [MY] time attempting to discuss anything with swolf . . .
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revel
 
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Reply Tue 6 Jul, 2004 08:30 am
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I mean, if you're going to peddle bullshit, at least make the bullshit decent enough that it doesn't immediately insult people's intelligence. It would have been literally hundreds of times cheaper just to buy the oil from Saddam Hussein or get it from him in sweetheart deals like Jake Shellac was doing.


Yea, but you wouldn't be in such a controlling position if you were a consumer rather than the ones who basically own the oil.
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JustanObserver
 
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Reply Tue 6 Jul, 2004 09:50 am
swolf wrote:
if you're going to peddle bullshit, at least make the bullshit decent enough that it doesn't immediately insult people's intelligence.


I hope I'm not the only one that sees the irony of those words coming from Swolf's mouth...
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