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Question about Race and Welfare

 
 
Fri 19 Jun, 2015 02:38 pm
What is everyone's opinion about blacks who are physically able to work but do not have the will or the drive to get on public transportation and earn a living for themselves. Instead they sit on welfare and have baby after baby that they can not afford. I am the most liberal person out there and have nothing but sorrow for the black community at this time. As a white female I probably am blind to white privilege in alot of aspects. But I can tell you that from talking to friends and family, this is the primary problem that many have with the inner city black community .... there are plenty of physically-able body people who are capable of employment who chose to sit on welfare and pump out children they cannot afford without govt. assistence. Of course this problem of sitting on welfare is not limited to the black community, it effects a low-income impoverished class that cuts across racial divides. But it seems to be an epidemic within the black community to the point that it is the norm to have "baby mommas" and "baby fathas" ... This is not fair to the working middle class. Why should I have to pay tax dollars to support families who made irresponsible choices and had children when they do not have a way to support them. I work 50 hours a week and struggled through school to support my family. It was not easy but I willed it into existence for myself. Why should I support a 16 year old girl who gets knocked up before she is old enough to support herself? Then she has 3 more kids by the time she is 25 and is doomed to welfare and a life of non-employment. Why should I support someone who chose to have kids they cannot afford?? I feel no matter where you are from there is a choice in this country. You have a choice to finish high school and perhaps go on to earn a degree that will afford you a higher income that will break you out of the cycle of poverty you came from. It is hard for me to respect someone who was born into poverty but chooses to continue that cycle by having kids they cannot afford without govt. assistance.
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Setanta
 
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Fri 19 Jun, 2015 02:45 pm
The majority of the recipients of social welfare are white, and live in rural areas. Lose the stereotypes, 'K?
loveislove
 
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Fri 19 Jun, 2015 02:47 pm
@Setanta,
As I said in my question, I understand that those on welfare are not all black or even primarily black. Would you mind answering my question though, what do you think about those (regardless of race) who sit on welfare when they are physically able to work (but claim they cannot find work and do not actively search for work) and have children they cannot afford without the govt. assisting them. Do you believe it is ethical for young people to have children with a GED or without even a high school diploma? I understand this issue is not limited to black community as I said in my question, but what do you think of the epidemic of "baby mommas" and "baby fathas" in the inner city black community?
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edgarblythe
 
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Fri 19 Jun, 2015 02:58 pm
roger
 
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Fri 19 Jun, 2015 03:06 pm
@loveislove,
loveislove wrote:

What is everyone's opinion about blacks who are physically able to work but do not have the will or the drive to get on public transportation and earn a living for themselves. (snip)

I am the most liberal person out there and have nothing but sorrow for the black community at this time. (snip)


Just thought I would juxtapose these two sentences so you can read what you wrote, love.
loveislove
 
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Fri 19 Jun, 2015 03:12 pm
@edgarblythe,
what are you trying to say with that? that the legacy of slavery is what is causing the epidemic i spoke of?
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loveislove
 
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Fri 19 Jun, 2015 03:14 pm
@roger,
What are you trying to say? Can no one discuss anything on this forum?

I did not say I do not have sorrow for those who do not have the willpower to find work for themselves, I do. But as someone who has experienced depression and whose parents do not support them, I do not understand people (regardless of race) who ch0ose to not make a life for themselves and cho0se to sit on welfare without an education. I could very well be one of those people. But I chose to work my way through school, take out loans, and rise above my circumstances and I chose to give better to my children then what my parents gave to me.
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Butrflynet
 
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Fri 19 Jun, 2015 03:26 pm
@loveislove,
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But I can tell you that from talking to friends and family


When was the last time you talked with some of these people you have disdain for to find out what their actual story is and not what you heard from others via chain letter emails?

loveislove
 
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Fri 19 Jun, 2015 03:32 pm
@Butrflynet,
Actually, the primary person I have this discussion which is my mother. I don't receive chain emails on this and am not sure what you are referring to. She works for Johns Hopkins Hospital in Baltimore city and has to approve that newborn infants are safe to go home with mothers who are flagged to be at risk because of drug usage or violence in the home or other reasons like that. Virtually all of them are on welfare and already have children they cannot support without govt. assistance. The reason I post this question is because of conversations with her. We are both highly liberal and love the African American community. We have sorrow for these people and their situation. We are both optimistic people but feel their desperation is a situation without optimism in alot of ways. She says it is extremely hard for her to work this population of young mothers who have children they cannot support because when she talks to them to approve them as safe mothers or not, she can hear how hopeless they are about their lives. When she asks them what are their hobbies or goals almost all of them say sleeping and eating and watching TV as day to day hobbies and literally 0 aspirations about the future for themselves. Why do they not have goals for themselves? Why were they not shown their value and the importance of believing in yourself and your dreams even when no one else will? It saddens us and the fact that they chose to have children without goals for themselves or careers or means of independent financial support in sight.
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