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Tour de France 2004

 
 
Rick d Israeli
 
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Reply Fri 23 Jul, 2004 01:21 pm
< sigh > I get it Walter < packs his bags, moves to Germany >
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Thok
 
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Reply Fri 23 Jul, 2004 01:27 pm
Rick d'Israeli wrote:
< packs his bags, moves to Germany >


logical and good decision ;-)
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Rick d Israeli
 
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Reply Fri 23 Jul, 2004 02:18 pm
... that's why you live in Vienna Thok? :wink:
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 23 Jul, 2004 02:22 pm
Quote:

Overall:
7 081 TOTSCHNIG Georg AUT [Austria] GST[Gerolsteiner/Germany] at 12' 56
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Rick d Israeli
 
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Reply Fri 23 Jul, 2004 02:24 pm
I'll be in Germany in three days - I'm leaving Mondaymorning. Seriously, that is. Holiday for two weeks near the Luxembourg border.
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Thok
 
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Reply Fri 23 Jul, 2004 02:29 pm
Whereabouts?
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Rick d Israeli
 
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Reply Fri 23 Jul, 2004 02:31 pm
Eiffel; the city is called Kröv.
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Thok
 
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Reply Fri 23 Jul, 2004 02:41 pm
Im Moselland , Kröv is rather a village than a city. ;-)
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Rick d Israeli
 
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Reply Fri 23 Jul, 2004 02:42 pm
Ehh OK :wink:
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 23 Jul, 2004 02:42 pm
Kröv is more Mosel (actually it is) than Eiffel:

"Kröver Nacktarsch" being one of the worst wines (besides Liebfrauenmilch)

[Start trying driving in the mountains there before you take the courage to discover the Sauerland? :wink: ]
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Rick d Israeli
 
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Reply Fri 23 Jul, 2004 02:44 pm
Really? I knew it was near the Mosel, but I thought it was also Eiffel. Sorry, my German geography isn't very good...
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Thok
 
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Reply Sat 24 Jul, 2004 10:09 am
Whoever else?

Quote:
Stage 19: Besançon to Besançon 24 Jul 2004
1. Lance Armstrong USA US Postal 1:06:49 1:06:49
2. Jan Ullrich GER T-Mobile 1:07:50 +01:01
3. Andreas Klöden GER T-Mobile 1:08:16 +01:27
4. Floyd Landis USA US Postal 1:09:14 +02:25
5. Bobby Julich USA Team CSC 1:09:37 +02:48
6. Ivan Basso ITA Team CSC 1:09:39 +02:50
7. Jens Voigt GER Team CSC 1:10:08 +03:19
8. Vladimir Karpets RUS Illes Balears 1:10:22 +03:33
9. José Luis Rubiera ESP US Postal 1:10:29 +03:40
10. José Azevedo POR US Postal 1:10:38 +03:49
11. George Hincapie USA US Postal 1:10:45 +03:56
12. Levi Leipheimer USA Rabobank 1:10:55 +04:06
13. Santos González ESP Phonak 1:11:06 +04:17
14. Aitor González ESP Fassa Bortolo 1:11:22 +04:33
15. José Iván Gutiérrez ESP Illes Balears 1:11:42 +04:53
16. Viatcheslav Ekimov RUS US Postal 1:11:43 +04:54
17. Carlos Sastre ESP Team CSC 1:11:45 +04:56
18. Christophe Moreau FRA Crédit Agricole 1:11:47 +04:58
19. Marc Wauters BEL Rabobank 1:11:55 +05:06
20. José Enrique Gutiérrez ESP Phonak 1:12:02 +05:13
21. ?"scar Pereiro ESP Phonak 1:12:10 +05:21
22. Igor González de Galdeano ESP Liberty Seguros 1:12:21 +05:32
23. Fabian Cancellara SUI Fassa Bortolo 1:12:25 +05:36
24. Christian Vande Velde USA Liberty Seguros 1:12:31 +05:42
25. Georg Totschnig AUT Gerolsteiner 1:12:39 +05:50
26. Marcos Serrano ESP Liberty Seguros 1:12:42 +05:53
27. Benjamín Noval ESP US Postal 1:12:47 +05:58
28. Sylvain Chavanel FRA Brioches La Boulangère 1:12:51 +06:02
29. Sandy Casar FRA FDJeux.com 1:12:53 +06:04
30. Axel Merckx BEL Lotto - Domo 1:13:08 +06:19
31. Uwe Peschel GER Gerolsteiner 1:13:13 +06:24




Quote:
Overall results
Pos Rider Nat Team Time Deficit
1. Lance Armstrong USA US Postal 79:27:17 79:27:17
2. Andreas Klöden GER T-Mobile 79:33:55 +06:38
3. Ivan Basso ITA Team CSC 79:34:16 +06:59
4. Jan Ullrich GER T-Mobile 79:36:26 +09:09
5. José Azevedo POR US Postal 79:41:47 +14:30
6. Francisco Mancebo ESP Illes Balears 79:45:37 +18:20
7. Georg Totschnig AUT Gerolsteiner 79:46:03 +18:46
8. Carlos Sastre ESP Team CSC 79:47:27 +20:10
9. Levi Leipheimer USA Rabobank 79:47:48 +20:31
10. ?"scar Pereiro ESP Phonak 79:50:30 +23:13
11. Pietro Caucchioli ITA Alessio 79:51:57 +24:40
12. Christophe Moreau FRA Crédit Agricole 79:52:12 +24:55
13. Vladimir Karpets RUS Illes Balears 79:52:47 +25:30
14. Michael Rasmussen DEN Rabobank 79:54:33 +27:16
15. Richard Virenque FRA Quick-Step 79:55:47 +28:30
16. Sandy Casar FRA FDJeux.com 79:56:29 +29:12
17. Gilberto Simoni ITA Saeco 79:56:36 +29:19
18. Thomas Voeckler FRA Brioches La Boulangère 79:58:10 +30:53
19. José Luis Rubiera ESP US Postal 80:00:07 +32:50
20. Stéphane Goubert FRA AG2R 80:04:47 +37:30

YES, Klöden on the second place, excellent. Congratulations. Ullrich still on the 4rd.
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Thok
 
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Reply Sun 25 Jul, 2004 10:55 am
That´s it.
Quote:
Stage 20: Montereau-faut-Yonne to Paris 25 Jul 2004
Pos Rider Nat Team Time Deficit
1. Tom Boonen BEL Quick-Step 4:08:26 4:08:26
2. Jean-Patrick Nazon FRA AG2R 4:08:26 +00:00
3. Danilo Hondo GER Gerolsteiner 4:08:26 +00:00
4. Robbie McEwen AUS Lotto - Domo 4:08:26 +00:00
5. Erik Zabel GER T-Mobile 4:08:26 +00:00
6. Jimmy Casper FRA Cofidis 4:08:26 +00:00
7. Stuart O'Grady AUS Cofidis 4:08:26 +00:00
8. Baden Cooke AUS FDJeux.com 4:08:26 +00:00
9. Massimiliano Mori ITA Domina Vacanze 4:08:26 +00:00
10. Bram de Groot NED Rabobank 4:08:26 +00:00
11. Laurent Brochard FRA AG2R 4:08:26 +00:00
12. Julian Dean NZL Crédit Agricole 4:08:26 +00:00
13. Fabio Baldato ITA Alessio 4:08:26 +00:00
14. Jimmy Engoulvent FRA Cofidis 4:08:26 +00:00
15. Franck Renier FRA Brioches La Boulangère 4:08:26 +00:00
16. Thor Hushovd NOR Crédit Agricole 4:08:26 +00:00

Congatulations to all 147 rider,specially Lance Armstrong, Andreas Klöden, Ivan Basso, green jersey Robbie McEwen, mountain Richard Virenque and white jersey Vladimir Kerpets.
..and the full overall result:
Quote:
Overall results
Pos Rider Nat Team Time Deficit
1. Lance Armstrong USA US Postal 83:36:02 83:36:02
2. Andreas Klöden GER T-Mobile 83:42:21 +06:19
3. Ivan Basso ITA Team CSC 83:42:42 +06:40
4. Jan Ullrich GER T-Mobile 83:44:52 +08:50
5. José Azevedo POR US Postal 83:50:32 +14:30
6. Francisco Mancebo ESP Illes Balears 83:54:03 +18:01
7. Georg Totschnig AUT Gerolsteiner 83:54:29 +18:27
8. Carlos Sastre ESP Team CSC 83:55:53 +19:51
9. Levi Leipheimer USA Rabobank 83:56:14 +20:12
10. ?"scar Pereiro ESP Phonak 83:58:56 +22:54
11. Pietro Caucchioli ITA Alessio 84:00:23 +24:21
12. Christophe Moreau FRA Crédit Agricole 84:00:38 +24:36
13. Vladimir Karpets RUS Illes Balears 84:01:13 +25:11
14. Michael Rasmussen DEN Rabobank 84:03:18 +27:16
15. Richard Virenque FRA Quick-Step 84:04:13 +28:11
16. Sandy Casar FRA FDJeux.com 84:04:55 +28:53
17. Gilberto Simoni ITA Saeco 84:05:02 +29:00
18. Thomas Voeckler FRA Brioches La Boulangère 84:07:14 +31:12
19. José Luis Rubiera ESP US Postal 84:08:52 +32:50
20. Stéphane Goubert FRA AG2R 84:13:13 +37:11
21. Axel Merckx BEL Lotto - Domo 84:15:56 +39:54
22. Michael Rogers AUS Quick-Step 84:17:41 +41:39
23. Floyd Landis USA US Postal 84:18:57 +42:55
24. ?"scar Sevilla ESP Phonak 84:21:21 +45:19
25. Giuseppe Guerini ITA T-Mobile 84:23:09 +47:07
26. Iker Camaño ESP Euskaltel 84:23:16 +47:14
27. Jérôme Pineau FRA Brioches La Boulangère 84:23:45 +47:43
28. José Enrique Gutiérrez ESP Phonak 84:26:41 +50:39
29. Laurent Brochard FRA AG2R 84:27:37 +51:35
30. Sylvain Chavanel FRA Brioches La Boulangère 84:30:45 +54:43
31. Santos González ESP Phonak 84:37:03 +1:01:01
32. Michele Scarponi ITA Domina Vacanze 84:39:03 +1:03:01
33. George Hincapie USA US Postal 84:40:11 +1:04:09
34. David Moncoutié FRA Cofidis 84:40:39 +1:04:37
35. Jens Voigt GER Team CSC 84:43:09 +1:07:07
36. Alexandre Botcharov RUS Crédit Agricole 84:46:56 +1:10:54
37. Juan Miguel Mercado ESP Quick-Step 84:47:33 +1:11:31
38. Eugeni Petrov RUS Saeco 84:48:26 +1:12:24
39. Patrice Halgand FRA Crédit Agricole 84:48:26 +1:12:24
40. Bobby Julich USA Team CSC 84:48:44 +1:12:42
41. Egoi Martínez ESP Euskaltel 84:51:12 +1:15:10
42. Marius Sabaliauskas LTU Saeco 84:51:17 +1:15:15
43. Rik Verbrugghe BEL Lotto - Domo 84:52:44 +1:16:42
44. Igor González de Galdeano ESP Liberty Seguros 84:52:47 +1:16:45
45. Aitor González ESP Fassa Bortolo 84:53:25 +1:17:23
46. Manuel Beltrán ESP US Postal 85:02:30 +1:26:28
47. Jean-Cyril Robin FRA FDJeux.com 85:08:08 +1:32:06
48. Daniele Nardello ITA T-Mobile 85:11:28 +1:35:26
49. Santi Pérez ESP Phonak 85:11:56 +1:35:54
50. Aitor Osa ESP Illes Balears 85:14:40 +1:38:38
51. José Iván Gutiérrez ESP Illes Balears 85:15:18 +1:39:16
52. Iñigo Landaluze ESP Euskaltel 85:15:54 +1:39:52
53. Ronny Scholz GER Gerolsteiner 85:18:46 +1:42:44
54. Marcos Serrano ESP Liberty Seguros 85:18:55 +1:42:53
55. Jörg Ludewig GER Saeco 85:20:59 +1:44:57
56. Christian Vande Velde USA Liberty Seguros 85:24:13 +1:48:11
57. Sergei Ivanov RUS T-Mobile 85:25:53 +1:49:51
58. Paolo Bettini ITA Quick-Step 85:26:12 +1:50:10
59. Erik Zabel GER T-Mobile 85:26:23 +1:50:21
60. Iker Flores ESP Euskaltel 85:26:51 +1:50:49
61. Stuart O'Grady AUS Cofidis 85:27:43 +1:51:41
62. Mikel Astarloza ESP AG2R 85:31:06 +1:55:04
63. Kim Kirchen LUX Fassa Bortolo 85:31:54 +1:55:52
64. Andrea Peron ITA Team CSC 85:32:31 +1:56:29
65. Grischa Niermann GER Rabobank 85:33:27 +1:57:25
66. Benjamín Noval ESP US Postal 85:33:43 +1:57:41
67. Laurent Dufaux SUI Quick-Step 85:34:24 +1:58:22
68. Marzio Bruseghin ITA Fassa Bortolo 85:35:23 +1:59:21
69. Rolf Aldag GER T-Mobile 85:38:57 +2:02:55
70. Claus-Michael Møller DEN Alessio 85:40:03 +2:04:01
71. Sylvain Calzati FRA RAGT 85:45:36 +2:09:34
72. Nicolas Portal FRA AG2R 85:45:47 +2:09:45
73. Isidro Nozal ESP Liberty Seguros 85:46:35 +2:10:33
74. Michael Boogerd NED Rabobank 85:46:41 +2:10:39
75. Santiago Botero COL T-Mobile 85:48:34 +2:12:32
76. Pierrick Fedrigo FRA Crédit Agricole 85:49:16 +2:13:14
77. David Etxebarria ESP Euskaltel 85:50:44 +2:14:42
78. Sebastian Lang GER Gerolsteiner 85:51:33 +2:15:31
79. Pavel Padrnos CZE US Postal 85:52:21 +2:16:19
80. Viatcheslav Ekimov RUS US Postal 85:52:46 +2:16:44
81. Bert Grabsch GER Phonak 85:53:16 +2:17:14
82. Nicolas Jalabert FRA Phonak 85:54:44 +2:18:42
83. Benoît Salmon FRA Crédit Agricole 86:00:51 +2:24:49
84. Christophe Mengin FRA FDJeux.com 86:01:10 +2:25:08
85. Carlos Da Cruz FRA FDJeux.com 86:01:45 +2:25:43
86. José Vicente García Acosta ESP Illes Balears 86:02:16 +2:26:14
87. Dmitriy Fofonov KAZ Cofidis 86:02:24 +2:26:22
88. Nicki Sørensen DEN Team CSC 86:03:41 +2:27:39
89. Mark Scanlon IRL AG2R 86:03:51 +2:27:49
90. Marc Lotz NED Rabobank 86:05:50 +2:29:48
91. Unai Etxebarria VEN Euskaltel 86:06:39 +2:30:37
92. Christophe Rinero FRA RAGT 86:07:36 +2:31:34
93. Juan Antonio Flecha ESP Fassa Bortolo 86:09:40 +2:33:38
94. Dariusz Baranowski POL Liberty Seguros 86:09:56 +2:33:54
95. Yuri Krivtsov UKR AG2R 86:10:18 +2:34:16
96. Scott Sunderland AUS Alessio 86:11:22 +2:35:20
97. Xavier Zandio ESP Illes Balears 86:11:50 +2:35:48
98. Allan Davis AUS Liberty Seguros 86:12:18 +2:36:16
99. Andrea Noè ITA Alessio 86:12:38 +2:36:36
100. Koos Moerenhout NED Lotto - Domo 86:12:50 +2:36:48
101. Thierry Marichal BEL Lotto - Domo 86:14:00 +2:37:58
102. Walter Bénéteau FRA Brioches La Boulangère 86:14:38 +2:38:36
103. Anthony Charteau FRA Brioches La Boulangère 86:17:33 +2:41:31
104. Thor Hushovd NOR Crédit Agricole 86:18:47 +2:42:45
105. David Loosli SUI Saeco 86:20:26 +2:44:24
106. Danilo Hondo GER Gerolsteiner 86:22:56 +2:46:54
107. Peter Farazijn BEL Cofidis 86:22:58 +2:46:56
108. Martin Elmiger SUI Phonak 86:23:24 +2:47:22
109. Fabian Cancellara SUI Fassa Bortolo 86:24:44 +2:48:42
110. Matteo Tosatto ITA Fassa Bortolo 86:25:08 +2:49:06
111. Bram de Groot NED Rabobank 86:25:35 +2:49:33
112. Marc Wauters BEL Rabobank 86:26:18 +2:50:16
113. Peter Wrolich AUT Gerolsteiner 86:27:08 +2:51:06
114. Franck Renier FRA Brioches La Boulangère 86:29:18 +2:53:16
115. Karsten Kroon NED Rabobank 86:29:24 +2:53:22
116. Filippo Pozzato ITA Fassa Bortolo 86:30:57 +2:54:55
117. Jan Hruska CZE Liberty Seguros 86:32:03 +2:56:01
118. Filippo Simeoni ITA Domina Vacanze 86:32:32 +2:56:30
119. Ludovic Martin FRA RAGT 86:35:02 +2:59:00
120. Tom Boonen BEL Quick-Step 86:35:09 +2:59:07
121. Massimiliano Mori ITA Domina Vacanze 86:35:14 +2:59:12
122. Robbie McEwen AUS Lotto - Domo 86:35:20 +2:59:18
123. Kurt-Asle Arvesen NOR Team CSC 86:36:37 +3:00:35
124. Salvatore Commesso ITA Saeco 86:37:23 +3:01:21
125. Uwe Peschel GER Gerolsteiner 86:37:38 +3:01:36
126. Stefano Zanini ITA Quick-Step 86:37:41 +3:01:39
127. Julian Dean NZL Crédit Agricole 86:38:11 +3:02:09
128. Gilles Bouvard FRA RAGT 86:39:30 +3:03:28
129. Frédéric Guesdon FRA FDJeux.com 86:39:42 +3:03:40
130. Pierre Bourquenoud SUI RAGT 86:40:49 +3:04:47
131. Bernhard Eisel AUT FDJeux.com 86:41:46 +3:05:44
132. Marcus Ljungqvist SWE Alessio 86:43:53 +3:07:51
133. Erik Dekker NED Rabobank 86:43:56 +3:07:54
134. Christophe Laurent FRA RAGT 86:45:40 +3:09:38
135. Fabio Baldato ITA Alessio 86:46:48 +3:10:46
136. Guillaume Auger FRA RAGT 86:47:12 +3:11:10
137. Jean-Patrick Nazon FRA AG2R 86:49:12 +3:13:10
138. Jimmy Engoulvent FRA Cofidis 86:49:57 +3:13:55
139. Baden Cooke AUS FDJeux.com 86:51:47 +3:15:45
140. Wim Vansevenant BEL Lotto - Domo 86:58:17 +3:22:15
141. Christophe Edaleine FRA Cofidis 86:58:41 +3:22:39
142. Servais Knaven NED Quick-Step 86:59:09 +3:23:07
143. Francesco Secchiari ITA Domina Vacanze 87:01:39 +3:25:37
144. Matthew Wilson AUS FDJeux.com 87:12:33 +3:36:31
145. Frédéric Finot FRA RAGT 87:15:23 +3:39:21
146. Sébastien Joly FRA Crédit Agricole 87:19:20 +3:43:18
147. Jimmy Casper FRA Cofidis 87:31:51 +3:55:49

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Rick d Israeli
 
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Reply Sun 25 Jul, 2004 12:18 pm
Quote:
73. Isidro Nozal ESP Liberty Seguros 85:46:35 +2:10:33
74. Michael Boogerd NED Rabobank 85:46:41 +2:10:39
75. Santiago Botero COL T-Mobile 85:48:34 +2:12:32
[.....]
89. Mark Scanlon IRL AG2R 86:03:51 +2:27:49
90. Marc Lotz NED Rabobank 86:05:50 +2:29:48
91. Unai Etxebarria VEN Euskaltel 86:06:39 +2:30:37
[.....]
99. Andrea Noè ITA Alessio 86:12:38 +2:36:36
100. Koos Moerenhout NED Lotto - Domo 86:12:50 +2:36:48
101. Thierry Marichal BEL Lotto - Domo 86:14:00 +2:37:58
[.....]
110. Matteo Tosatto ITA Fassa Bortolo 86:25:08 +2:49:06
111. Bram de Groot NED Rabobank 86:25:35 +2:49:33
112. Marc Wauters BEL Rabobank 86:26:18 +2:50:16
113. Peter Wrolich AUT Gerolsteiner 86:27:08 +2:51:06
114. Franck Renier FRA Brioches La Boulangère 86:29:18 +2:53:16
115. Karsten Kroon NED Rabobank 86:29:24 +2:53:22
116. Filippo Pozzato ITA Fassa Bortolo 86:30:57 +2:54:55
[.....]
132. Marcus Ljungqvist SWE Alessio 86:43:53 +3:07:51
133. Erik Dekker NED Rabobank 86:43:56 +3:07:54
134. Christophe Laurent FRA RAGT 86:45:40 +3:09:38
[.....]
141. Christophe Edaleine FRA Cofidis 86:58:41 +3:22:39
142. Servais Knaven NED Quick-Step 86:59:09 +3:23:07
143. Francesco Secchiari ITA Domina Vacanze 87:01:39 +3:25:37


No further comment Evil or Very Mad
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 25 Jul, 2004 12:34 pm
You are on the sado-macho trip on your last day at home before the holidays? Shocked
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Thok
 
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Reply Sun 25 Jul, 2004 12:43 pm
well ,at least two was relative strong on any stages: Michael Boogerd and Servaus Knaven....
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Rick d Israeli
 
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Reply Sun 25 Jul, 2004 02:10 pm
Quote:
You are on the sado-macho trip on your last day at home before the holidays? Shocked

Your words :wink: Well I'm just pissed off 'cause of the bad results of the Dutchmen during this tour. Where are the Joop Zoetemelks and Jan Jansens? Where, oh where?!

Thok: very funny... it's not wise for Servais Knaven to come home now Twisted Evil

By the way, my bags are packed (took me 5 minutes :wink: ), this will be one of my last posts here for two weeks (not exactly though - I'll be home at Friday 6th of August). It will be hard Sad , but I do think I'll enjoy myself in Deutschland.
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Thok
 
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Reply Sun 25 Jul, 2004 02:19 pm
Rick d'Israeli wrote:
but I do think I'll enjoy myself in Deutschland.


sure

well, better times will be come for the Dutch riders ........
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Rick d Israeli
 
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Reply Sun 25 Jul, 2004 02:22 pm
I do hope so. We're talking about national pride here!
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Thok
 
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Reply Sun 25 Jul, 2004 02:31 pm
in football we played only 1:1 , but we had won clearly the duel Deutschland-Nederlands in cycling.
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