Walter Hinteler wrote: and then disregarded the "unwritten Tour law" and won the stage as well.
second times
Last week he foul Iban Mayo, when he had a subversiveness.
Quote:Stage 15: Valréas to Villard-de-Lans 20 Jul 2004
Pos Rider Nat Team Time Deficit
1. Lance Armstrong USA US Postal 4:40:30 4:40:30
2. Ivan Basso ITA Team CSC 4:40:30 +00:00
3. Jan Ullrich GER T-Mobile 4:40:33 +00:03
4. Andreas Klöden GER T-Mobile 4:40:36 +00:06
5. Levi Leipheimer USA Rabobank 4:40:43 +00:13
6. Richard Virenque FRA Quick-Step 4:41:18 +00:48
7. Michael Rasmussen DEN Rabobank 4:41:19 +00:49
8. José Azevedo POR US Postal 4:41:23 +00:53
9. Jens Voigt GER Team CSC 4:41:34 +01:04
10. Carlos Sastre ESP Team CSC 4:41:54 +01:24
11. Laurent Brochard FRA AG2R 4:42:28 +01:58
12. Marius Sabaliauskas LTU Saeco 4:42:32 +02:02
13. ?"scar Pereiro ESP Phonak 4:42:40 +02:10
14. Christophe Moreau FRA Crédit Agricole 4:42:41 +02:11
15. Gilberto Simoni ITA Saeco 4:42:43 +02:13
16. Georg Totschnig AUT Gerolsteiner 4:42:43 +02:13
17. Francisco Mancebo ESP Illes Balears 4:42:43 +02:13
18. Pietro Caucchioli ITA Alessio 4:42:43 +02:13
19. Marcos Serrano ESP Liberty Seguros 4:42:43 +02:13
20. Iker Camaño ESP Euskaltel 4:42:54 +02:24
Quote:Overall
1. Lance Armstrong USA US Postal 67:13:43 67:13:43
2. Ivan Basso ITA Team CSC 67:15:08 +01:25
3. Andreas Klöden GER T-Mobile 67:17:05 +03:22
4. Francisco Mancebo ESP Illes Balears 67:19:22 +05:39
5. Jan Ullrich GER T-Mobile 67:20:37 +06:54
6. José Azevedo POR US Postal 67:21:17 +07:34
7. Georg Totschnig AUT Gerolsteiner 67:22:02 +08:19
8. Thomas Voeckler FRA Brioches La Boulangère 67:23:11 +09:28
9. Pietro Caucchioli ITA Alessio 67:23:53 +10:10
10. Levi Leipheimer USA Rabobank 67:24:41 +10:58
I don't understand the fine points of the Tour. Is there something wrong with Armstrong's method of winning?
No, Edgar, it isn't: he's just too good with an extraordinary good team ... and takes it all very professionally (like Eddie Mercks did it, ages back). :wink:
Walter Hinteler wrote:he's just too good with an extraordinary good team ... and takes it all very professionally (like Eddie Mercks did it, ages back).
Nope. At least not this alone. It is a mythos, that nobody can six times wins the Tour de France, but now Armstrong maybe break this.....
I am thoroughly excited for him.
kitchenpete wrote:What's wrong with Lance, apart from being an opinionated Texan? At least he has a good reason to think himself the best at what he does!
Point is that he is the Michael Schumacher of the Tour de France :wink:
Hmm, and then there are all those Jos Verstappens
Don't say that name! It makes feel really bad about being Dutch :wink:
Why? Jos Verstappen make history :wink:
one year with him, the following without , the next again with him.......
well, maybe it´s hard for you, but it is also legendary. That's a feather in his cap :wink:
I believe we should deport Verstappen to a place where he belongs - the White House
Who will notice?
Quote:Stage 16: Le Bourg-d'Oisans to L'Alpe-d'Huez 21 Jul 2004
Pos Rider Nat Team Time Deficit
1. Lance Armstrong USA US Postal 39:41 39:41
2. Jan Ullrich GER T-Mobile 40:42 +01:01
3. Andreas Klöden GER T-Mobile 41:22 +01:41
4. José Azevedo POR US Postal 41:26 +01:45
5. Santos González ESP Phonak 41:52 +02:11
6. Giuseppe Guerini ITA T-Mobile 41:52 +02:11
7. Vladimir Karpets RUS Illes Balears 41:56 +02:15
8. Ivan Basso ITA Team CSC 42:04 +02:23
9. David Moncoutié FRA Cofidis 42:04 +02:23
10. Carlos Sastre ESP Team CSC 42:08 +02:27
11. Stéphane Goubert FRA AG2R 42:14 +02:33
12. Michael Rogers AUS Quick-Step 42:15 +02:34
13. José Enrique Gutiérrez ESP Phonak 42:45 +03:04
14. ?"scar Pereiro ESP Phonak 42:46 +03:05
15. Marcos Serrano ESP Liberty Seguros 42:49 +03:08
16. Georg Totschnig AUT Gerolsteiner 42:56 +03:15
17. Sandy Casar FRA FDJeux.com 43:00 +03:19
18. Christophe Moreau FRA Crédit Agricole 43:06 +03:25
19. Mikel Astarloza ESP AG2R 43:06 +03:25
20. Juan Miguel Mercado ESP Quick-Step 43:06 +03:25
very good sucess: Ulrich and Kloeden
Quote:Overall results
Pos Rider Nat Team Time Deficit
1. Lance Armstrong USA US Postal 67:53:24 67:53:24
2. Ivan Basso ITA Team CSC 67:57:12 +03:48
3. Andreas Klöden GER T-Mobile 67:58:27 +05:03
4. Jan Ullrich GER T-Mobile 68:01:19 +07:55
5. José Azevedo POR US Postal 68:02:43 +09:19
6. Francisco Mancebo ESP Illes Balears 68:02:44 +09:20
7. Georg Totschnig AUT Gerolsteiner 68:04:58 +11:34
8. Carlos Sastre ESP Team CSC 68:07:16 +13:52
9. Pietro Caucchioli ITA Alessio 68:07:32 +14:08
10. Levi Leipheimer USA Rabobank 68:08:28 +15:04
11. ?"scar Pereiro ESP Phonak 68:08:50 +15:26
12. Gilberto Simoni ITA Saeco 68:09:05 +15:41
13. Thomas Voeckler FRA Brioches La Boulangère 68:09:28 +16:04
14. Christophe Moreau FRA Crédit Agricole 68:10:47 +17:23
15. Michael Rasmussen DEN Rabobank 68:12:22 +18:58
16. Richard Virenque FRA Quick-Step 68:12:56 +19:32
17. Vladimir Karpets RUS Illes Balears 68:13:01 +19:37
18. Laurent Brochard FRA AG2R 68:13:50 +20:26
19. Sandy Casar FRA FDJeux.com 68:13:52 +20:28
20. Stéphane Goubert FRA AG2R 68:14:19 +20:55
21. José Luis Rubiera ESP US Postal 68:14:55 +21:31
22. ?"scar Sevilla ESP Phonak 68:17:38 +24:14
23. Michele Scarponi ITA Domina Vacanze 68:20:29 +27:05
24. Sylvain Chavanel FRA Brioches La Boulangère 68:20:55 +27:31
25. Iker Camaño ESP Euskaltel 68:21:04 +27:40
26. Jérôme Pineau FRA Brioches La Boulangère 68:22:22 +28:58
27. Michael Rogers AUS Quick-Step 68:22:46 +29:22
28. Axel Merckx BEL Lotto - Domo 68:25:57 +32:33
29. José Enrique Gutiérrez ESP Phonak 68:27:25 +34:01
30. Aitor González ESP Fassa Bortolo 68:27:29 +34:05
31. Giuseppe Guerini ITA T-Mobile 68:29:47 +36:23
Wow, Ullrich really made up some time. The press had already written him off. I suppose he still has a lot of time to make up, though.
Yes, 7:55 mins - somthing, he hardly can manage until Sunday.
<Hey, Swimpy! :wink: >
1 Lance Armstrong 2 Andreas Kloden 3 Jan Ullrich
In my view that´s unsportsmanlike. It was a exciting race until the last metres, Kloeden with a very good sprint but Armstrong shows an excellent sprint. He wins... However again: perfect race from the two Germans. OLE :-)
