Carly Fiorina and You!

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That's 30,000 people she laid off. People with families. And what does she say she would have done differently?

"I would have done them all faster."
—Carly Fiorina

http://carlyfiorina.org/

http://boingboing.net/2015/05/04/carly-fiorina-forgot-to-regist.html

She has a snowflake's chance in hell in being nominated by the Republican Party. What say you about her chance in grabbing the Vice President slot on the ticket?

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@tsarstepan,

A corporate CEO's job isn't to provide for the families of the company's employees;
it's to meet short-term earnings benchmarks, because that's what share-holders want.

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@Kolyo,

The CEO is also not supposed to flounder as poorly as Carly Fiorina did in her post.

A CEO isn't supposed to run a company into the ground either even if it temporarily boosts (artificially) stock prices.

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@tsarstepan,

tsarstepan wrote:

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That's 30,000 people she laid off. People with families. And what does she say she would have done differently?

"I would have done them all faster."
—Carly Fiorina

http://carlyfiorina.org/

http://boingboing.net/2015/05/04/carly-fiorina-forgot-to-regist.html

She has a snowflake's chance in hell in being nominated by the Republican Party. What say you about her chance in grabbing the Vice President slot on the ticket?

Absolutely agree with you. Carly Fiorina is dead on arrival. This also goes for Ben Carson, but that's for another thread.

Carly Fiorina, so far, appear to be depthless and half-baked the way she besmirches the political achievements of Hillary Clinton. Doesn't she realize she needs more than emotional hatred towards her opponent or else she will surely turn others off? She will appeal to the tea Party, and others who share her prejudice of Hillary, but intelligent observers will dismiss her as a fringe candidate. Her introductory to the presidential candidacy seems slyly malicious; spiteful as well as too mechanical, as if she were programmed by the tea party to be the hatchet against Hillary because the two of them are female. Perhaps Fiorina is hoping to be someone's VP. Or given a cabinet job. Who knows what Fiorina's angry passionate rationale is but one thing is for unfaltering, she certainly is not presidential material.

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@korkamann,

tsarstepan wrote:

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She has a snowflake's chance in hell in being nominated by the Republican Party. What say you about her chance in grabbing the Vice President slot on the ticket?

Carly Fiorina, IMO, will not be considered to fill the second spot of VP. She is too void of human emotion. There is simply no warmth and a feeling she's unable to connect with the ordinary humans. So far, I'm under no illusion the current crop of GOP clowns will emerge as the nominee, but Jeb Bush might squeeze through. I think the Republican party will have to come up with someone with at least a little moral integrity.

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I'm inclined to agree with you two about her. I don't like her and don't see her as having much of a chance.

My earlier comment was more about how CEOs in general put short-term profits ahead of people than about her.

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@korkamann,

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Absolutely agree with you. Carly Fiorina is dead on arrival. This also goes for Ben Carson, but that's for another thread.

I plan on voting for a Republican, but who are these people?

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@Kolyo,

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A corporate CEO's job isn't to provide for the families of the company's employees; it's to meet short-term earnings benchmarks, because that's what share-holders want.

No argument from me. Carly Fiorina failed to produce as a CEO and were paid by Hewitt Packard $21 million to leave.

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The RNC/GOP is making what they think is a pretty clever move to negate the "I'm going to vote for her because she's the first female, I'm going to vote for him because he's a (insert your ethnicity here)."

It is going to force the votes to be based on the merit of ideas and vision. Unfortunately, if both parties trot out more of the same ideas and visions from the last 15 years, they don't have a chance.

All this may play into the hands of Bernie Sanders and Rand Paul as they play their cards from different ends of the Independent "White Guy" perspective.

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@Butrflynet,

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All this may play into the hands of Bernie Sanders and Rand Paul as they play their cards from different ends of the Independent "White Guy" perspective.

Ha! Bernie Sanders is a self admitted socialist, he isn't an Independent. What he claims and what he is are 2 different things. I'm willing to bet no one would vote for him if he ran as he is, a Democrat Socialist.

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@Baldimo,

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Ha! Bernie Sanders is a self admitted socialist, he isn't an Independent. What he claims and what he is are 2 different things. I'm willing to bet no one would vote for him if he ran as he is, a Democrat Socialist.

Being a political realist, I am under no misconception that Bernie Sanders will be the Democratic nominee; however, I'll be willing to wager more Americans would vote for Sanders than any of the current GOP clowns running.

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@korkamann,

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I'll be willing to wager more Americans would vote for Sanders than any of the current GOP clowns running.

If you are talking about liberals, then you are correct.

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@Baldimo,

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I'll be willing to wager more Americans would vote for Sanders than any of the current GOP clowns running.

If you are talking about liberals, then you are correct.

Not merely Liberals/progressives, but College students, moderates, women, Latinos,minorities of all persuasions, LGBT Rights Movement, and most sane observers who are non-ideological. Most of these people/groups are against the stringent antiquated political policies of the GOP Clowns.

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@Kolyo,

AH yes, capitolism at its best, fuk the employees so I can make my multi million dollar bonus. Hell I,ll even fuk the stockholders to protect my bonuses.

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almost bought her autobiography today - found it in the $1 bin at BMV
decided to pass on it for now

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@RABEL222,

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AH yes, capitolism at its best, fuk the employees so I can make my multi million dollar bonus. Hell I,ll even fuk the stockholders to protect my bonuses.

It's not just capitalism that's the problem here, though, Rabel; it is specifically shareholder capitalism that is the problem. Business behave differently depending on what kind of entity owns them. In the 19th century, businesses were built to last, because the person that owned them was the same person running them and the same person who imagined them glorious and strong in the first place. Employees may have worked for ****, back in the days of yore, but at least they knew their jobs were going to continue to be there. These days shareholders only care about stock prices and immediate dividends, so CEOs have no choice but to jeopardize the company's future in order to produce those things. Short term gain over long-term sustainable success -- that's shareholder capitalism.

We're on the right track, though, I think, in our tax code. We tax long-term capital gains less than short-term capital gains, encouraging investors to stay with a stock for at least a year. That is a good thing, IMO. It forces the company's owners (shareholders) to think about long-term value.

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I think edgar summed up my aversion to Fiorina best when he called her "Ayn Rand without the empathy" in his clown car thread. He was being ironic, I guess, since Rand had no empathy either. But I would unironically call Fiorina "Ayn Rand without out the original-thinking ability". Fiorina is a follower and takes everything Rand said as true in the most literal sense, which makes her, the copycat, more dangerous than the original.

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@tsarstepan,

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What say you about her chance in grabbing the Vice President slot on the ticket?

Hell. No.

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Carly Fiorina Lies to Fox, Has a Bri-Wi Problem
Source: Huffington Post

Carly Fiorina has a big problem with the truth. More specifically, she has a problem with embellishing the truth, in a manner very reminiscent of disgraced NBC anchor Brian Williams.

On Friday, conservative radio host Sean Hannity asked Fiorina to explain stories that Hewlett-Packard violated in the Iran embargo, by selling millions of dollars of computers, parts and equipment through a Dubai-based company, while she was CEO.

"The SEC did a thorough investigation and concluded that no one in management, myself included, knew anything about it," Fiorina told Hannity.

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Yes, except the SEC investigation didn't. In fact, the SEC didn't perform an investigation at all, especially one that cleared her of any knowledge of the affair.

Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/eric-schmeltzer/carly-fiorina-lies-to-fox_b_8163596.html

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@bobsal u1553115,

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