I have lost all my feelings of pleasure due to anhedonia which is a negative symptom of schizoprhenia. I really do believe that pleasure is the only good thing in life. As for the reason why people wish to feel numb, it would be because being numb is better than being in a state of suffering. But still, you would be in a neutral state and not in a good state if you didn't have your feelings of pleasure.
Now there is the moral version of good and bad and there is the feeling version of good and bad. So even though it could very well be morally good to have a balance in life and other things, without our feelings of pleasure, then we would instead be living for something else that is good in life separate from our own conscious brains. But since our conscious is what defines our very lives since it is the very thing that makes us alive in the first place, then it all comes back to our conscious defining our own lives as good. Therefore, since pleasure is the only good conscious experience, then us living for other good things in life without our feelings of pleasure wouldn't make our lives good at all.
pleasure. We may recognize other things as good in our lives without our feelings of pleasure, but there is still no good experience whatsoever from those things. Our conscious defines our own personal lives and since pleasure is the only good experience, then even though we can live for other good things in life without our pleasure, the fact of the matter is that there is no good experience from that and our lives would actually not have personal good value. A good thought would then be no different than a bad thought or any other thought. They are different in the sense that they are obviously different thoughts. But they are all still nothing more than just thoughts. They are all nothing more than the "thinking" experience and to tell ourselves the message that there are other good things in our lives to live for without our feelings of pleasure, then that doesn't change the fact that this is nothing more than just some thought. It doesn't change the experience whatsoever for you in your life.
Our thoughtation of the data, the thought.s cannot be any other experience besides thoughts. To say that our thoughts can be a form of pleasure would be no different than saying that our thoughts can be a form of hearing or sight without our actual hearing or sight.
Thoughts can only give us pleasure when we have our feelings of pleasure. Otherwise, they are nothing more than the experience of just thoughts without our feelings of pleasure. I do noteted understand how I am misinterpreting here. If you could explain to me how it is even possible for our thoughts to be an experience of pleasure, then I would be glad to listen.
Critics of hedonism have objected to its exclusive concentration on pleasure as valuable. In particular, G. E. Moore offered a thought experiment in criticism of pleasure as the sole bearer of value: he imagined two worlds - one of exceeding beauty and the other a heap of filth. Neither of these worlds will be experienced by anyone. The question, then, is if it is better for the beautiful world to exist than the heap of filth. In this Moore implied that states of affairs have value beyond conscious pleasure, which he said spoke against the validity of hedonism.
thoughts over to an experience of pleasure without our actual feelings of pleasure just like how having the thought of hearing or sight if we are blind or deaf can never change the experience of those thoughts over to an experience of sight or hearing.
But the version of good that comes from our thoughts and such is different than the version that comes from our feelings of pleasure. Feelings of pleasure are just simply a feeling version of good. They feel good. Simply put. It has nothing to do with us attributing any good value to them. They always feel good in of themselves. Then we have the thought (moral) version of good which is all just nothing more than just the experience of thoughts without our feelings of pleasure.
In conclusion, even if we somehow could experience pleasure or suffering from our thoughts, perceptions, and everything else, then that could only be if we had our actual feelings of pleasure and suffering to do so. Otherwise, we wouldn't be able to experience any form of pleasure or suffering without our actual feelings of pleasure or suffering.
In conclusion, I am making these arguments to try and help find better cures and treatments for anhedonia and depression. If people would realize that pleasure and suffering are the only true good and bad things in life, then they would be much more inclined to find better treatments and a cure. Too many people are just accepting of suffering due to them thinking that they are still good people even with much suffering and/or an absence of pleasure in their lives. But I wish to change this mindset so that people would then truly realize once and for all the pleasure and suffering really are the only true good and bad things in life. Not only am I trying to find better treatments and cures for depression and anhedonia, but also for suffering in general. My hedonistic values would also encourage others to find better treatments and cures for suffering in general as well. This would also even include mortality since living in an eternal blissful life of no suffering is the one and only greatest life there is and is the one and only thing that would make you the greatest person.
which I also want you to reply to as well since that is very important for you to reply to. I wish to say here that we can personally define our thoughts and other things in life as being pleasure just like how we could personally define our thoughts and other things in life as hearing or sight. But that still doesn't change what our thoughts are. That still doesn't change the experience of our thoughts in that they are all the "thinking" experience of our brains and can't be the experience of sight, hearing, pleasure, smell, etc. Same thing if we personally defined our own happiness and joy in life without our feelings of pleasure. That personal defined happiness and joy is not going to change the "thinking" experience of our thoughts. This "thinking" experience cannot be any other experience as I've said before and it can't be any experience of pleasure, happiness, or joy. As I said before, it is all nothing more than the experience of a thought of pleasure, joy, and happiness and not the actual experience of any pleasure, joy, and happiness without our actual feelings of those things.