@ApollosEnvy,
Starting with a prima facie understanding of the word:
Reality- it is what it is - always has been and always will be.
As far as our
perception of reality, however:
We have been and will continue to be inundated with a tsunami of words.
That's why God gave us a sense of humor.
@fresco,
fresco wrote:
I suggest you think about that word "entirely".
Ok, I see that human knowledge is a part of the world, so it can't be another thing "entirely."
@ossobuco,
ossobuco wrote:Finally a philosophy thread I won't remove from my reading list immediately; in my reality, many of them are silly. This is short term thinking though, not always.
Many?
But take heart. They are always good for a laugh.
@Frank Apisa,
[quote="Frank]. . . using words that were not focused on speaking the way dumb people think smart people speak.[/quote]A stellar perception, Frank.
@neologist,
It was good wasn't it. I'm going nuts trying to find a way to work it into conversation. Ok, not here, in real life.
@glitterbag,
I'm thinking of coining a term, 'jargon sandwich',
Have yet to consider bread choice, condiments, etc.
No doubt it could be made to be quite tasty.
@neologist,
Maybe 'jargon smorgasbord', where you can just choose words that sound erudite, whether you understand them or not. You just figure your reader will not know enough to call you out.
@neologist,
Now that would be a ton of fun.
@glitterbag,
What about jargon pot luck?
Hey guys.
I just saw this thread and felt that it would be a good place for me to share my recent re-wording of the OP from my thread 'The Void and the Absolute Oneness of the Universe' from about a month ago. I just think it fits. The beginning part is the most changed part.
In truth, 'Something' (that is, either 'any number of things', or even simply 'one thing') never REALLY exists.
The assertion that "'Something' exists" is infact inextricably equal to the assertion that Reality itself has a real, ultimate 'edge', in both expanse and duration.
The problem with this assertion is that the 'Absolute Nothingness' that would irreducibly exist boundlessly beyond (and causelessly before and endlessly after) the ultimate spatial and temporal boundaries of even the most inclusive conceivable 'Something' would ITSELF be forever inherently Present.
As such, 'Absolute Nothingness' is infact always already included 'within' Reality itself, inexorably as its one TRUELY irreducible (and therefore MOST REAL) 'aspect'.
Thus, as Reality itself is in this way absolutely causeless and boundless, 'Something' (that is to say, a finite and temporary Reality consisting of either one or more things) can never ACTUALLY come into existence.
In truth, Reality itself fundamentally equals 'ZERO'.
Yet, the very 'ISness' of this 'ZERO' inextricably equals 'ONE'.
Being intrinsically infinite and eternal, 'ONE' is forever choicelessly aware of (and is therefore effortlessly experiencing) the eternal infinity that is 'ONE', all the while remaining (due to its fundamentally attributeless nature) absolutely unrequiring of (and thus, completely devoid of) any capacity for the formation of any kind of 'knowledge' of 'itself', or of 'anything else'.
This is the stateless state of 'pure awareness'. It simply 'is', without beginning, ending or edge, always already perfect and complete, and absolutely sufficient unto itself. As such, it remains forever in an unfathomable state of unthreatenable bliss.
This, alone, is 'What Actually 'IS'', 'Here' and 'Now'.
As 'ONE' experiences 'ONE', 'ONE' SEEMS to be 'TWO'. These illusory 'TWO' are 'the seer' and 'the seen'. The seen is fundamentally manifested as the state of 'absolute chaos' (i.e. finite, ever-changing and moving form). The seer is fundamentally manifested as the state of 'absolute order' (i.e. infinite, ever-changeless and still emptiness).
'From' the eternal interaction between this apparent 'pair', 'Everything' happens, in the ONLY way that it possibly can;
'THIS' way.
In other words, the so-called 'big bang' (which is one in an infinite series of such bangs) can be described as an instantaneous event of pure chaos (i.e. the seen) that happens in the infinite field of changeless and orderly emptiness (i.e. the seer). When this occurs, the passive 'gaze' of the field causes the event to coherently 'evaporate', unresistingly, via the orderly path of least resistance until it has completely dissolved, and then another 'bang' happens, and so on forever. The evaporation itself (which can ONLY happen perfectly) is the seemingly causal and sequential 'life' of the universe, along with all of its apparently coherent hierarchical structure and physical 'laws'.
Being an evaporation, it doesn't really have any actual 'parts', that are fundamentally different from and/or independently other than each other in the way in which they seem to be.
Therefore, every'thing', every'one', and every 'event' EVER is actually an 'apparent part' of the forever fundamentally seamless and effortless unfurling of this one choiceless effect, which is itself comprised ONLY of the one causeless, unencompassed, self-experiencing presence that is 'ZERO'.
Amongst the myriad finite and temporary undulations that arise and dissolve within this illusory evaporation, there arise certain undulations of such extreme physical complexity that they have the choiceless and effortless capacity to 'reflect' the gaze of the infinite emptiness back upon itself from their own particular positions, as well as upon all surrounding undulations within a certain coherent distance from themselves. This makes it seem as if there is a uniquely autonomous, finite and temporary consciousness operating within each of these extremely complex undulations, consequently concealing the truely seamless oneness of the universe.
Ultimately 'Here' and 'Now', without another, forever and ever;
(((((((((('THIS'-EXPERIENCING-'THIS'))))))))))
@glitterbag,
Cool.
Thread started in your honor:
http://able2know.org/topic/271694-1
Reality itself is never actually in any way different to Infinite, eternal Nothingness.
@Relinquish,
Quote:Hey guys.
I just saw this thread and felt that it would be a good place for me to share my recent re-wording of the OP from my thread 'The Void and the Absolute Oneness of the Universe' from about a month ago. I just think it fits. The beginning part is the most changed part.
In truth, 'Something' (that is, either 'any number of things', or even simply 'one thing') never REALLY exists.
The assertion that "'Something' exists" is infact inextricably equal to the assertion that Reality itself has a real, ultimate 'edge', in both expanse and duration.
The problem with this assertion is that the 'Absolute Nothingness' that would irreducibly exist boundlessly beyond (and causelessly before and endlessly after) the ultimate spatial and temporal boundaries of even the most inclusive conceivable 'Something' would ITSELF be forever inherently Present.
As such, 'Absolute Nothingness' is infact always already included 'within' Reality itself, inexorably as its one TRUELY irreducible (and therefore MOST REAL) 'aspect'.
Thus, as Reality itself is in this way absolutely causeless and boundless, 'Something' (that is to say, a finite and temporary Reality consisting of either one or more things) can never ACTUALLY come into existence.
In truth, Reality itself fundamentally equals 'ZERO'.
Yet, the very 'ISness' of this 'ZERO' inextricably equals 'ONE'.
Being intrinsically infinite and eternal, 'ONE' is forever choicelessly aware of (and is therefore effortlessly experiencing) the eternal infinity that is 'ONE', all the while remaining (due to its fundamentally attributeless nature) absolutely unrequiring of (and thus, completely devoid of) any capacity for the formation of any kind of 'knowledge' of 'itself', or of 'anything else'.
This is the stateless state of 'pure awareness'. It simply 'is', without beginning, ending or edge, always already perfect and complete, and absolutely sufficient unto itself. As such, it remains forever in an unfathomable state of unthreatenable bliss.
This, alone, is 'What Actually 'IS'', 'Here' and 'Now'.
As 'ONE' experiences 'ONE', 'ONE' SEEMS to be 'TWO'. These illusory 'TWO' are 'the seer' and 'the seen'. The seen is fundamentally manifested as the state of 'absolute chaos' (i.e. finite, ever-changing and moving form). The seer is fundamentally manifested as the state of 'absolute order' (i.e. infinite, ever-changeless and still emptiness).
'From' the eternal interaction between this apparent 'pair', 'Everything' happens, in the ONLY way that it possibly can;
'THIS' way.
In other words, the so-called 'big bang' (which is one in an infinite series of such bangs) can be described as an instantaneous event of pure chaos (i.e. the seen) that happens in the infinite field of changeless and orderly emptiness (i.e. the seer). When this occurs, the passive 'gaze' of the field causes the event to coherently 'evaporate', unresistingly, via the orderly path of least resistance until it has completely dissolved, and then another 'bang' happens, and so on forever. The evaporation itself (which can ONLY happen perfectly) is the seemingly causal and sequential 'life' of the universe, along with all of its apparently coherent hierarchical structure and physical 'laws'.
Being an evaporation, it doesn't really have any actual 'parts', that are fundamentally different from and/or independently other than each other in the way in which they seem to be.
Therefore, every'thing', every'one', and every 'event' EVER is actually an 'apparent part' of the forever fundamentally seamless and effortless unfurling of this one choiceless effect, which is itself comprised ONLY of the one causeless, unencompassed, self-experiencing presence that is 'ZERO'.
Amongst the myriad finite and temporary undulations that arise and dissolve within this illusory evaporation, there arise certain undulations of such extreme physical complexity that they have the choiceless and effortless capacity to 'reflect' the gaze of the infinite emptiness back upon itself from their own particular positions, as well as upon all surrounding undulations within a certain coherent distance from themselves. This makes it seem as if there is a uniquely autonomous, finite and temporary consciousness operating within each of these extremely complex undulations, consequently concealing the truely seamless oneness of the universe.
Ultimately 'Here' and 'Now', without another, forever and ever;
(((((((((('THIS'-EXPERIENCING-'THIS'))))))))))
Seems like a whole lot of words for nothing.
Reality is supposedly everything that's real. Time is real, whether as a subjective but real perception or an objective real thing. Therefore, there is no time outside of reality. There never was such a time when reality wasn't, or hadn't happened yet, and there will never be a time without some form of reality around, if only time itself.
Editing the original post because as I've seen there are already a few of you being smart asses. I'm not talking about reality as a concept(As stated. Thank you for reading that part.) I'm talking about existence as a whole. Reality is a concept perceived by everything that is a part of it e.x. humans. To help you understand what I mean, we as human beings have a higher perception of reality, of what is and what may come. Do you think there has always been a reality to perceive, and will there always be one?
@Olivier5,
As with reality time is also a concept, time is different everywhere in the universe it is also a perception kind of thing. Existence has to have always been or we wouldn't be here now, but will it always be? Has reality always had a role to play? Will it one day end?
@neologist,
Neologist I am not asking about perception, Yes I agree that reality has always existed, but will it always be? Everything that we are aware of has had a beginning and an end. Could reality possibly be the first to break that rule, to have always been; and always be?
@Relinquish,
Relinquish, by saying nothing is still something is simply a contradiction. Nothing is a word we've created to express.. Well nothing. We could have never created the word to describe it hence there would be absolute nothingness. But as I've stated before everything has a counterpart. Reality (Existence) and Non Reality (Non Existence)
@argome321,
Well, the lots of words are there to explain firstly why 'Something' can't ever be real, and secondly why 'Something' SEEMS to be real.
@ossobuco,
Thank you, I hope to keep your mind intrigued by future posts as well.
