Ionus
 
  1  
Sun 19 Apr, 2015 06:34 am
@Patches,
You say there are no religious people who are psychotic . I ask if there is a selection process to eliminate psychotic people . Your answer is that how do we know psychiatry is telling the truth . I take it you do not have a degree of any kind, even Interpretive Dance . If you can not eliminate the psychotic from your religion then you probably have someone as at least 1 in 5 has mental health problems, though not of a serious degree . You do have at least 5 people dont you ? If you dont trust psychiatry why trust your Doctor ? It is all the field of medicine .
Patches
 
  1  
Sun 19 Apr, 2015 06:50 am
@Ionus,
I believe that the devils can drive people mad. Over 100 years ago, practicing physicians treating psychosis would drill holes in people's heads trying to release evil spirits. Needless to say, the roots of psychiatry are far from appealing.
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FBM
 
  2  
Sun 19 Apr, 2015 06:57 am
@Patches,
Patches wrote:

I am not psychotic.


You haven't done much to support that claim, either.

Quote:
Other early warning signs are more like the positive symptoms of psychosis, but are milder or more subtle. We call these attenuated psychotic symptoms.

Attenuated (mild) psychotic symptoms
Suspiciousness
...


Well, you have expressed a lot of suspicion about my motives and the motives of others here who can't see your god.

Quote:
Odd beliefs or magical thinking
(e.g., Feeling confused about whether a dream actually happened; Wondering whether other people might be able to read your mind; Finding meaningful connections between unrelated events; Clear and frequent déjà vu experiences or experiences of unreality)


Let's see. An invisible, all-powerful, magical friend, claims of miraculous things that could only be witnessed in a dream state, such as magical cures, disembodied voices, finding hidden, special meaning in blobs of light...

Quote:
Unusual perceptual experiences
(e.g., Sounds seeming louder than usual; Seeing shadows that look like people or vague figures out of the corner of the eye; Finding that everyday noises sound like words or have special meaning)


Seeing holy spirits in random light patterns that can easily be shown to be meaningless and easily reproducible...

Quote:
Tangential/circumstantial speech
(e.g., Going off track while speaking; Using odd combinations of words)


Hmm. It's pretty rare that you respond directly to my comments or questions. You usually come back with an odd-sounding non sequitur about how wonderful your god is or some scripture. I've shown the very simple logical fallacies in your claims, but you keep repeating them as if you have no recollection of them. I'm not claiming a diagnosis, but I don't see how you're quite in the clear, either.

http://www.cedarclinic.org/index.php/understanding-early-psychosis/early-signs-of-psychosis
FBM
 
  1  
Sun 19 Apr, 2015 06:57 am
@Patches,
Patches wrote:

I do not demand evidence.


That's the problem. Or at least one of them. Gullibility. In the extreme.
Patches
 
  1  
Sun 19 Apr, 2015 07:08 am
@FBM,
I could just as easily say that you are blind to the truth of the spirit world as well.
FBM
 
  1  
Sun 19 Apr, 2015 07:09 am
@Patches,
Yeah, you do say a lot of wild **** that you can't back up... Wink
Patches
 
  0  
Sun 19 Apr, 2015 07:09 am
@FBM,
I speak truth. The devil is a liar.
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Patches
 
  0  
Sun 19 Apr, 2015 07:12 am
@FBM,
I have given you real photographs of the Holy Spirit and chariots of God. Only, you do not know this nor do you believe it.
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Patches
 
  0  
Sun 19 Apr, 2015 07:15 am
@FBM,
I have witnessed a great deal in the spirit world. And I am not gullible.
FBM
 
  2  
Sun 19 Apr, 2015 07:22 am
@Patches,
You're just confirming the things I pointed out in the post about psychosis...
Patches
 
  0  
Sun 19 Apr, 2015 08:07 am
@FBM,
Do you know anything about the spirit world? If so, please describe to me briefly some of the things that you may know of it. Do you even believe that it is real?
FBM
 
  2  
Sun 19 Apr, 2015 08:18 am
@Patches,
Patches wrote:

Do you know anything about the spirit world? If so, please describe to me briefly some of the things that you may know of it. Do you even believe that it is real?


I'm nonplussed that you would even remotely consider that I might think the "spirit world" is real at this point in our conversation. You're either not paying attention or are incapable of processing information in a mentally healthy way.

Show me some genuine evidence of a "spirit world" and then we'll have something to discuss. Photos of light patterns that can be easily produced by amateurs is not evidence of anything. Fallacious appeals to anecdotes and mass appeal do nothing. So easily falsified. Show some genuine evidence that points to only one conclusion: the spirit world. Can you?
FBM
 
  2  
Sun 19 Apr, 2015 08:24 am
@Patches,
Patches wrote:

I do not demand evidence.


Patches wrote:

...And I am not gullible.


That's the very definition of "gullible." Do you see why we doubt your sanity? Or at least your basic intelligence? http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb192/DinahFyre/facepalm.gif
FBM
 
  2  
Sun 19 Apr, 2015 08:30 am
http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb192/DinahFyre/10474242_920856667935916_770288646849765959_n.jpg
Patches
 
  0  
Sun 19 Apr, 2015 08:39 am
@FBM,
Here is a photograph showing you the reality of the spirit world.
http://www.extremumspiritum.com/images/2013/07/xmas-orb.jpg
It is of a spirit in one of the many chariots of God.

Psalm 68:17. The chariots of God are twenty thousands, Even thousands of thousands. The lord among them as in Sinai, in the Holy Place.
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Patches
 
  0  
Sun 19 Apr, 2015 08:43 am
@FBM,
I already know the reality of God. It is you that do not know the reality of God nor the spirit world.
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Patches
 
  0  
Sun 19 Apr, 2015 08:44 am
@FBM,
You do not know the truth. Nor do you speak the truth. The truth is not in you. You spread lies leading people to hell. You are being a devil. For your soul, you need to repent, seek Christ and ask God for forgiveness.
FBM
 
  2  
Sun 19 Apr, 2015 08:54 am
@Patches,
Again, you're just confirming the content of my post about your potential psychosis. Study that. It might come in handy. Wink


http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb192/DinahFyre/11146229_10152772098448144_7276769090138643547_n.jpg
Patches
 
  1  
Sun 19 Apr, 2015 08:57 am
@FBM,
You keep on the road you are on and someday you may see the harsh realities of what it is like to be without God in the afterlife. I hope that you have the good sense not to let it go that far.
FBM
 
  1  
Sun 19 Apr, 2015 09:05 am
@Patches,
Again, you continue to confirm the post about psychosis. You haven't looked at it, have you? Or if you did, you're incapable of dealing with it, seems. I hope you have the good sense to take your medications as directed by medical professionals who do know how to do logic and evidence-based critical thinking.
 

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