What good does religion offer the world today?

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@Olivier5,

Trump does fit uncomfortably well into the 'other worldly' events going on now. There have always been wars, crazy leaders, etc. but there is something uniquely strange about the last 5 years.

Could be just old age, maybe everyone experiences that in the last stage of life. Reminds me of that line in the Simon & G. song Old Friends, - "How terribly strange to be 70".

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@Olivier5,

Olivier5 wrote:

I'm a rationalist, but his account of demonic activity rings strangely true, as if there was darker and deeper forces at work here, beyond normal politics. Trump is invocking the mindless hatred of the masses as if it was an underworld demon. We know that crowds, when in a fury, can do almost anything, however disgusting.

Scary...

Lol and you call yourself a rationalist? Are you a comedian?

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@Leadfoot,

I don't think it's the end of THE world, if that's what you got in mind :-) but A world is ending: the post WW2 world based on the fear of fascism, the (at least proclaimed) abhorence of racism, the principle of collective security, US leadership of ther west, and cold war type equilibrium of terror. This is nearly all gone; none of the old principles apply anymore.

Witness the very bizarre situation where a Russian dictator is seen as a good guy by the most right-wing Americans, and allowed to interfere in a US election as if it was no big deal.

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@Krumple,

Just keeping an open mind.

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@Olivier5,

Olivier5 wrote:

Just keeping an open mind.

More like seeing how much you can exhaggerate the situation.

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@Krumple,

Like you exaggerate exHaggerate?

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@Krumple,

Are you pro-Trump, Krumple?

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@Olivier5,

Olivier5 wrote:

Are you pro-Trump, Krumple?

No. I just don't get why it's necessary to over exhaggerate the issue. Trump isn't green lighting prejudice or discrimination. Those people who are feeling emboldened to say racist things probably would have regardless of who the president is.

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@Krumple,

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Trump isn't green lighting prejudice or discrimination.

Yes he is. He's stroking up people's fears and hatreds, playing on their prejudices and amplifying them. He is busy spreading hate.

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@Olivier5,

I agree. Just listen to Trump's speeches. It's all about fear and division. It's about walls, not bridges.

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@TheCobbler,

Your argument goes rancid with a reading of Genesis 2:4 when all of the creative days are grouped as one.
When is the last time you read any of that stuff, Rex?

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@cicerone imposter,

cicerone imposter wrote:

God knew before hand that man would sin. He then sends his "only begotten son" to die for a few hours to save man kind.
What's wrong with this picture?

There you go again - using an hypothesis contrary to fact.
Since we are created with free will, God undoubtedly knew it was possible for man to sin. But, if you consider carefully the definition of his name and what he says about himself in Isaiah 55:11, you should take note that his will and purpose for mankind cannot be derailed.

Nothing can prevent him from realizing the promise he made to Adam and Eve to fill the earth (not overfill). That includes restoring to life all those who have lived and died without ever knowing of him. See John 5: 28,29.

If you hate all the human misery that has transpired in the last 6000 +/- years, let it be known that God has a transcendent hatred, sure to be poured out on those who have perpetrated the misery.

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@neologist,

neologist wrote:

Your argument goes rancid with a reading of Genesis 2:4 when all of the creative days are grouped as one.
When is the last time you read any of that stuff, Rex?

So by your interpretational analogy, the first creative day, "and the evening and the morning were the first day (Genesis 1:5)," were a series of undefined days grouped as one, even though the word "day" isn't mentioned at all in the passage you cite, and this supposed grouping of a series of undefined days isn't articulated in Genesis 1:5. Talk about tourtured rationalizational interpretation.

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@InfraBlue,

Isn't the whole bible made up of texts filled with confusion and contradictions? One of god's law is "thou shalt not kill," but he makes exceptions for those who fail to believe he is god.
https://carm.org/questions/you-shall-not-kill-yet-god-kills

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@cicerone imposter,

cicerone imposter wrote:

Isn't the whole bible made up of texts filled with confusion and contradictions? One of god's law is "thou shalt not kill," but he makes exceptions for those who fail to believe he is god.
https://carm.org/questions/you-shall-not-kill-yet-god-kills

Well, the word used in that passage is râtsach and it could mean either kill, put to death or murder, "to dash to pieces." Because of all of the killing that God demands throughout the Bible, translators tend to render the word as "murder" instead of the more general "kill."

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@InfraBlue,

Good answer, there is a difference

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@InfraBlue,

Quote:

mur·der
[ˈmərdər]
NOUN
the unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another:
"the stabbing murder of an off-Broadway producer" · [more]
synonyms: killing · homicide · assassination · liquidation · extermination · [more]

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Yet another example of seeing only what you want to see

Your car's brakes fail and you hit a car killing a passenger.
You are a police HRT member and you intentionally kill a hostage taker in order to rescue the hostage.

Are you guilty of murder CI?

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@Leadfoot,

Do you beat your wife?

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