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What good does religion offer the world today?

 
 
TheCobbler
 
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Tue 21 Jun, 2016 05:37 am
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TheCobbler
 
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Tue 21 Jun, 2016 06:29 am
‘God is not a magician’: Pope says Christians should believe in evolution and Big Bang
http://www.rawstory.com/2014/10/god-is-not-a-magician-pope-says-christians-should-believe-in-evolution-and-big-bang/

This is what is called, "thinking outside the book". tc
Leadfoot
 
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Tue 21 Jun, 2016 07:38 am
@TheCobbler,
I never understood why the Big Bang was ignored or seen as such a threat to religions.
It was a knee jerk reaction (that goes on for decades).

Don't those idiots realize when science supports their own creation story?
Smileyrius
 
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Tue 21 Jun, 2016 08:09 am
@Leadfoot,
I always find this interesting, there are those that say, there can be no God because the big bang happened, and those that say there can be no Big Bang because God created the universe. The two theories are easily reconciled, while both, one of, or neither of these theories could be correct
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TheCobbler
 
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Tue 21 Jun, 2016 10:37 am
@Leadfoot,
Science sort of supports it, but the "woman is evil" part is only supported by misogynists, a few brainwashed women and male chauvinist pigs.
Leadfoot
 
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Tue 21 Jun, 2016 10:49 am
@TheCobbler,
That's true, but I think that may have gotten started as an over reaction to silly men doing an equally vile thing to women:

Putting them on a pedestal.
TheCobbler
 
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Tue 21 Jun, 2016 12:37 pm
Seminary Rocked By Gay Scandal Involving Seven Student Priests, Two Staffers, TONS Of Sex
http://www.queerty.com/seminary-rocked-gay-scandal-involving-seven-student-priests-two-staffers-tons-sex-20160621

I wish they would distinguish between gays and pedophiles...

There is a difference...
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Glennn
 
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Tue 21 Jun, 2016 01:17 pm
@Leadfoot,
Describe that pedestal.
Leadfoot
 
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Tue 21 Jun, 2016 01:40 pm
@Glennn,
Quote:
Describe that pedestal.
Examples and results of it can be found most any week here on a2k. For this weeks example, read the thread: 'why did she act this way'.

We start out by glorifying the 'unconditional love' that women have for their children and it goes downhill from there. It's no wonder they sometimes commit infanticide and betray their devoted husbands.
Glennn
 
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Tue 21 Jun, 2016 02:27 pm
@Leadfoot,
So you're saying that there is no such pedestal.
Leadfoot
 
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Tue 21 Jun, 2016 02:49 pm
@Glennn,
If I told you about some fresh elephant tracks in your yard, is that equivalent to me saying there are no elephants?
Glennn
 
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Tue 21 Jun, 2016 03:16 pm
@Leadfoot,
Good, then we're clear that there is no such pedestal.
Leadfoot
 
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Tue 21 Jun, 2016 03:20 pm
@Glennn,
Ah, argument by assertion. Can't lose with that...

Also Try - Lalalalalala...I can't hear you..Lalalalalala....
Glennn
 
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Tue 21 Jun, 2016 03:25 pm
@Leadfoot,
I asked you to describe the pedestal you mentioned, and you appear to be incapable of doing so. Why is that?
Leadfoot
 
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Tue 21 Jun, 2016 03:27 pm
@Glennn,
And you are incapable of hearing when I do. Why is that?
Glennn
 
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Tue 21 Jun, 2016 03:28 pm
@Leadfoot,
You didn't describe the pedestal you mentioned. If you did, point me to the post.

Or don't . . .
Leadfoot
 
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Tue 21 Jun, 2016 03:46 pm
@Glennn,
Could you see the pedestal that the guy in the 'why did she act this way?' Thread had put his wife on?

When you consciously or unconsciously hold on to the idea that love requires your unconditional acceptance of any behavior from someone, you have placed that person on a pedestal. Even the false expectation that someone is 'perfect' sets them up there. There are many forms that the pedestal takes so I can't give a difinitive single description.

I have no idea whether you do it or not but it happens quite a lot.

I probably should have given a simpler answer by telling you to listen to top 40 love songs on the radio for an hour or so. If you reach middle age and can't see the pedestal in those lyrics, you probably never will.
Glennn
 
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Wed 22 Jun, 2016 09:03 am
@Leadfoot,
I asked you to describe the pedestal you mentioned because this is a thread which asks the question of what good religion offers the world. There are religious people who believe that assigning women a social position is putting them on a pedestal.

In response to the biblical idea that woman is evil, you said that that may have gotten started as an overreaction to silly men doing an equally silly and vile thing to women--putting them on a pedestal. You referred me to a thread. But I was hoping that you might just explain what your comment meant in the context of the thread title--this thread.
Leadfoot
 
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Wed 22 Jun, 2016 09:26 am
@Glennn,
Well, I hate to put my answer in the context of the thread title because there is only one good thing that religion offers the world. Sometimes it offers an incentive to contemplate and maybe meet God. But even more often it leads to deception and man made dogma.

But assuming we are talking about the only good thing it offers, it tells you not to put anything or anyone above knowing God. I shouldn't have to point out that most people put many things in their life above God, most commonly - women. One well known religion explicitly places family as their highest value and what they hope for in the next life.

ANYTHING you place above God is putting it on a pedestal.

PS: I am assuming we are both in agreement about the meaning of the euphemistic term 'pedestal' ?
TheCobbler
 
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Fri 24 Jun, 2016 12:24 pm
‘VEHEMENTLY ANTI-GAY’ CHRISTIAN PASTOR CHARGED WITH 70 COUNTS OF POSSESSION OF CHILD PORNOGRAPHY
http://www.greenvillegazette.com/p/vehemently-anti-gay-christian-pastor-charged-with-70-counts-of-possession-of-child-pornography-128556/

The Taliban did the same thing... vehemently opposed gay rights while raping boys.
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