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What good does religion offer the world today?

 
 
FBM
 
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Reply Thu 8 Oct, 2015 05:57 pm
@TheCobbler,
TheCobbler wrote:

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It's part of their heritage...




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TheCobbler
 
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Reply Sat 10 Oct, 2015 06:36 am
@FBM,
Lot's wife is puffing on a big stogie! LOL
FBM
 
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Reply Sat 10 Oct, 2015 06:55 am
@TheCobbler,
If she finishes that bodacious one by herself, she'll no doubt feel like a pillar of salt. Wink
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TheCobbler
 
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Reply Sat 10 Oct, 2015 10:05 am
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TheCobbler
 
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Reply Sat 10 Oct, 2015 08:01 pm
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If we don't educate all our children, someone else will.
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TheCobbler
 
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Reply Sat 10 Oct, 2015 08:20 pm
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djjd62
 
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Reply Sun 11 Oct, 2015 06:45 am
@coldjoint,
every political system, no matter it's basis has had resignations, some voluntary some not

did Nixon leaving the White House invalidate democracy, i'm not catholic and couldn't care less about Vatican City or it's rulers, but they do use this criteria, as stated by you, "Christian doctrine to rule any modern country"

though if we want to get even more technical they're a City State, but they rule themselves
Palivinya191
 
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Reply Sun 11 Oct, 2015 08:54 am
@TheCobbler,
I do not know what religion would exactly offer to anyone else, but I know what it does for me. I myself have wondered the same thing. I started to think that it is all based on our weakness. Like during times of trouble and we are scared, we have hope. Even if it is fake. Even if there is a possibility that there is nothing left for us once our lives have deteriorated. We are able to hope. It sounds a little insignificant, but when you are in darkness and you can't find a light but you so, so desperately want to see again, to be again, there is one light. No matter where you are. The light itself isn't god. It isn't Jesus or Mary or anyone in particular. It is what you've learned and how you live. For me, I am catholic, and I have asked myself so many times, "What are we doing?" because you see gays and lesbians shunned by us. Women who get pregnant too young look like disgraces. I've hated that about my religion, I wanted to walk away because I thought it caused more pain than good. Then I asked myself, "What does it mean to be catholic?". Look at the beatitudes and the ten commandments and you will see that this is how you're supposed to live. The bible doesn't tell us to hurt others. It tells us to love and we seem to have so little of that nowadays. You see masks and not faces you hear "screw you" instead of "I am there for you". There seems to be no one there to parent all of us overgrown children. But there is a parent, and maybe it's not god but some one wrote this book. The bible. And when there is no one to tell you to love, there is the Bible. I don't exactly know if I believe in god, I need to figure that out for myself, but I most certainly believe in what he would stand for. Even if it is useless to others and they don't agree with me, that is perfectly fine with me. In my faith, we are told not to judge and I will stand behind the Bible.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Sun 11 Oct, 2015 10:05 am
@djjd62,
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every political system, no matter it's basis has had resignations, some voluntary some not


You can't have it both ways. Talking about the Catholics as a political system. The Christian doctrine is not political, resignations are.
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TheCobbler
 
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Reply Mon 12 Oct, 2015 02:27 am
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TheCobbler
 
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Reply Mon 12 Oct, 2015 02:41 am
@Palivinya191,
The parent is not God but the goodness we all have inside of us that we can give to others selflessly without thought or question.

The holy books are full of half truths. Half truth is no truth at all when the means do not facilitate the ends...

Love is true through and through and can never be detracted from or extinguished.

Love is not half true but it is true even when we need to defend ourselves from those who would do us harm. We defend ourselves because we desire to live to love another day...

Love is not bigoted, homophobic, sexist, or sectist... Love knows no particular god or creed only giving of the heart such that another will learn the same depth of selflessness and reach another with same giving spirit.

Only love is true and all other thoughts and doctrines are superfluous...

A doctrine without charity is like a life without living.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Mon 12 Oct, 2015 12:43 pm
@TheCobbler,
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Then the Muslim leaves the coffee shop and throws the nearest homo of a building.http://www.doomjunkie.com/images/smilies/bananawohoo.gif
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Leadfoot
 
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Reply Mon 12 Oct, 2015 02:53 pm
@TheCobbler,
Quote:
A doctrine without charity is like a life without living.

That's funny. You, quoting the bible.
Wilso
 
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Reply Mon 12 Oct, 2015 09:33 pm
Today I read probably the best quote I've ever seen re religion.

"Children don't need to be freed from their sins. They need to be freed from people who look in their eyes and see sinners."
TheCobbler
 
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Reply Tue 13 Oct, 2015 01:03 am
You have to see this incredible pastor take down homophobes!
https://www.facebook.com/pinknews/videos/10153549086686518/
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TheCobbler
 
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Reply Tue 13 Oct, 2015 01:04 am
@Leadfoot,
I am quoting myself there. Smile
Leadfoot
 
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Reply Tue 13 Oct, 2015 05:27 am
@TheCobbler,
Quote:
I am quoting myself there.


See! More evidence that you were created in the image of God!
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FBM
 
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Reply Tue 13 Oct, 2015 05:48 am
@Wilso,
Wilso wrote:

Today I read probably the best quote I've ever seen re religion.

"Children don't need to be freed from their sins. They need to be freed from people who look in their eyes and see sinners."


Awesome! And grownups need to be freed from the compulsion to identify the person in the mirror as a sinner just for having been born.
Leadfoot
 
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Reply Wed 14 Oct, 2015 07:40 am
@FBM,
Quote:
Wilso wrote:
Today I read probably the best quote I've ever seen re religion.

"Children don't need to be freed from their sins. They need to be freed from people who look in their eyes and see sinners."

FBM replied:
"Awesome! And grownups need to be freed from the compulsion to identify the person in the mirror as a sinner just for having been born."

I'm totally on board with that. I wish people would think more deeply about what sin is. My conclusion after a lot of thought is:

Sin is the denial of reality. Or as Paul put it, 'Whatsoever is not of faith, is sin'.

In other words, if you don't believe something to be true and persue that thought anyway, you have sinned.

If you sincerely believe something to be true and follow that belief, you have not sinned, even if it turns out later not to be true. In that case, you simply made a mistake, which is not a sin.
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Wed 14 Oct, 2015 08:54 am
@Leadfoot,
Leadfoot wrote:

Quote:
Wilso wrote:
Today I read probably the best quote I've ever seen re religion.

"Children don't need to be freed from their sins. They need to be freed from people who look in their eyes and see sinners."

FBM replied:
"Awesome! And grownups need to be freed from the compulsion to identify the person in the mirror as a sinner just for having been born."

I'm totally on board with that. I wish people would think more deeply about what sin is. My conclusion after a lot of thought is:

Sin is the denial of reality. Or as Paul put it, 'Whatsoever is not of faith, is sin'.

In other words, if you don't believe something to be true and persue that thought anyway, you have sinned.

If you sincerely believe something to be true and follow that belief, you have not sinned, even if it turns out later not to be true. In that case, you simply made a mistake, which is not a sin.


The ONLY thing a sin can be...

...is something that offends a god.

If you have a god...

...and you offend that god...

...it is a sin.

Insofar as you do things that do not offend that god...

...you are not sinning.
 

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