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What good does religion offer the world today?

 
 
TheCobbler
 
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Reply Wed 16 Aug, 2017 08:51 pm
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 16 Aug, 2017 09:26 pm
@TheCobbler,
What Trump has done is reveal who the vile people in our country are. They were underground for many years, and they suddenly popped up their heads from hiding because they now have a leader they can call "president."
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oralloy
 
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Reply Thu 17 Aug, 2017 04:42 am
@TheCobbler,
TheCobbler wrote:
Trump’s business advisory councils disband as CEOs abandon president over Charlottesville views
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/on-leadership/wp/2017/08/16/after-wave-of-ceo-departures-trump-ends-business-and-manufacturing-councils/?utm_term=.70d683a150ae

No member of Trump's Evangelical Council has resigned. Goodness, it almost looks as if Big Business is more moral than Big Religion! Mrs. Betty Bowers, America's Best Christian

Mrs. Betty Bowers, America's Best Christian, Trump promises to run presidency as his business. Business promises to run from his presidency.

There are many repugnant aspects of liberalism. One of those repugnant aspects is the way liberals falsely accuse everyone who stands in their way of Nazism.

Liberalism is to blame for any damage to our economy that follows from this.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 17 Aug, 2017 10:39 am
@oralloy,
Yea. Liberalism gave us equality and social security. Conservatism gave us Donald Trump, the bigot in chief, liar and misogynist.
TheCobbler
 
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Reply Thu 28 Sep, 2017 07:18 pm
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andy31
 
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Reply Fri 29 Sep, 2017 10:06 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Yeah, liberalism gave us insanity, antiamericanizm, reverse racism, demoralization, lawlessness, corruption, and worse of all Hilary Clinton.
Conservatism gave us Donald Trump, that is correct, as a hope to bring the order back. Btw Cicerone, you been fed that BS through lying leftist fake media, that work for deep state to distroy this country and you simply are too naive to read between the lines. They hope the more they repeat this nonsense, the people will start believing. Well, that holds the truth only for people without common sense.
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andy31
 
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Reply Fri 29 Sep, 2017 10:18 pm
@TheCobbler,
Cobbler, I strongly believe that deep inside you are conservative, you just don't know it. I've red some of your posts where you expressed deep conservative values thinking they belong to the left. If you just give a chance and listen sometimes to the other side, maybe you'll see the light.
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cameronleon
 
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Reply Sat 30 Sep, 2017 11:11 am
@TheCobbler,
Quote:
The story of Cain was probably invented to encourage racial cleansing... It is the Bible writers who are guilty of killing their "brothers"... Whose God is more evil? Really...

The Bible Says Canaanites Were Killed, But New DNA Evidence Suggests Otherwise
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2017/07/29/the-bible-says-canaanites-were-killed-but-new-dna-evidence-suggests-otherwise/


The article is based in ignorance when refers that the bible is inaccurate.
And your deluded intentions in discrediting the bible are the sad part of this discussion.

Next time, read the bible before writing your usual nonsense.

Book of Judges chapter 1

27 But Manasseh did not drive out the people of Beth Shan or Taanach or Dor or Ibleam or Megiddo and their surrounding settlements, for the Canaanites were determined to live in that land.

28 When Israel became strong, they pressed the Canaanites into forced labor but never drove them out completely.

29 Nor did Ephraim drive out the Canaanites living in Gezer, but the Canaanites continued to live there among them. 30 Neither did Zebulun drive out the Canaanites living in Kitron or Nahalol, so these Canaanites lived among them, but Zebulun did subject them to forced labor.

31 Nor did Asher drive out those living in Akko or Sidon or Ahlab or Akzib or Helbah or Aphek or Rehob.

32 The Asherites lived among the Canaanite inhabitants of the land because they did not drive them out.

33 Neither did Naphtali drive out those living in Beth Shemesh or Beth Anath; but the Naphtalites too lived among the Canaanite inhabitants of the land, and those living in Beth Shemesh and Beth Anath became forced laborers for them.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 30 Sep, 2017 07:29 pm
@cameronleon,
Since the bible is clear to you, you can perhaps explain these contradictions.
http://www.awitness.org/contrabib/history/joshua.html
cameronleon
 
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Reply Sat 30 Sep, 2017 11:16 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
Since the bible is clear to you, you can perhaps explain these contradictions.
http://www.awitness.org/contrabib/history/joshua.html


Look, I will clarify one of those contradictions as the model to follow.

If you are really interested, first verify your source and later come with solid evidence. So far, the link you have posted shows that the author of the article enjoys of lack of reading comprehension.

The first point he uses for his assumed contradiction in the bible:

" "He left not a single survivor" (Joshua 11:8)

Lets see this part.

7 So Joshua and his whole army came against them suddenly at the Waters of Merom and attacked them,

8 and the Lord gave them into the hand of Israel. They defeated them and pursued them all the way to Greater Sidon, to Misrephoth Maim, and to the Valley of Mizpah on the east, until no survivors were left.


Joshua defeated whom? The armies of various kingdoms.

He left no survivors, this is to say, no troops survived the war, they were killed in action and the injured killed as well. Complete annihilation.

Plus, reading a little further, the kings were also killed.

10 At that time Joshua turned back and captured Hazor and put its king to the sword. (Hazor had been the head of all these kingdoms.) 11 Everyone in it they put to the sword. They totally destroyed[a] them, not sparing anyone that breathed, and he burned Hazor itself.

And people from those "CITIES" were also killed, no survivors.

12 Joshua took all these royal cities and their kings and put them to the sword. He totally destroyed them, as Moses the servant of the Lord had commanded.
13 Yet Israel did not burn any of the cities built on their mounds—except Hazor, which Joshua burned.
14 The Israelites carried off for themselves all the plunder and livestock of these cities, but all the people they put to the sword until they completely destroyed them, not sparing anyone that breathed.


In times where agriculture was the main source of work and income, the population of a city was way smaller when compared with the population of the farm areas.
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Do you know what is ISIS?

ISIS is the survivors of the Western attacks in the Middle East.

The Western armies destroyed the armies of the invaded countries but the survivors of those troops and families dead by collateral damage have formed their own army and now are counterattacking.

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After Joshua died, don't think that the situation in those lands stayed the same.

Like ISIS rose up some years later, the survivors, people from farms, organized themselves to fight back against Israel. At that moment Israel was without a strong leader, to the point that their war strategy was practically improvised.

Judges 1

"Israel Fights the Remaining Canaanites

1 After the death of Joshua, the Israelites asked the Lord, “Who of us is to go up first to fight against the Canaanites?”

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The raising up of ISIS took just a few years.

The same happened with Canaanites and other peoples in that land, in a few years they did recovered and populated again the destroyed but not burned cities, they continued their life as farmers. Israel population wasn't that great to control the conquered lands, and additional wars started again.

And I will recommend you to read the bible before using other sources which will lie to you because their authors know that you are a religion hater and that you will never verify what they write.

Use the model given above, and verify by yourself if that link of yours is telling the truth.

So far, it is understood that because your ignorance about the biblical narration, you have been deceived and you are taking sides in base of wrong or fraudulent information.





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TheCobbler
 
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Reply Wed 27 Dec, 2017 04:31 pm
There is a Bible verse for everything under the sun! lol Smile
https://www.facebook.com/RelentlessWoman/videos/129086264484864/
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TheCobbler
 
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Reply Wed 10 Jan, 2018 02:19 pm
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Sturgis
 
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Reply Wed 10 Jan, 2018 02:23 pm
@TheCobbler,
Maybe yes, maybe no.

What if it could be shown that people had prayed for vaccines or cures against these diseases? Or perhaps they should prayed that people would become scientists who would invent these medical breakthroughs.
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maxdancona
 
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Reply Wed 10 Jan, 2018 03:00 pm
@TheCobbler,
Prayer has been shown scientifically to have a significant positive effect treating depression and anxiety.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20391859

You should correct your little infographic.
TheCobbler
 
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Reply Thu 11 Jan, 2018 08:54 am
@maxdancona,
Placebos and fortune tellers also help depression but they rarely ever "cure anything".

Remaining sick while praying is depressing too...

Letting them die: parents refuse medical help for children in the name of Christ
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/apr/13/followers-of-christ-idaho-religious-sect-child-mortality-refusing-medical-help

You should learn from this infographic before spouting your right wing garbage.

The next time you need a doctor why don't you just pray the illness away?

Depression and anxiety, what a crock of crap!

Comfort does not require a God... (neither does love and morality), it just requires the "real and authentic" warm caring and loving support of family and friends...

The Bible talks about "the prince of the power of the air".

Air... like when you need a real cure and you reach out for God and nothing is there, but air, empty and without substance...

Being deceived is depressing and a source of anxiety too.

A pet can help with anxiety and depression too. Pets are actually tangible things.
camlok
 
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Reply Mon 22 Jan, 2018 09:38 am
@maxdancona,
Feeling positive, which is what prayer offers the gullible/depressed/those in anxiety, has, what else, a positive effect.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 22 Jan, 2018 08:29 pm
@camlok,
Research has shown that first party prayers do have positive results.
camlok
 
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Reply Mon 22 Jan, 2018 09:30 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Yes, I stated that.
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rosborne979
 
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Reply Tue 23 Jan, 2018 05:49 am
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

Research has shown that first party prayers do have positive results.

Research has shown that placebo’s work even when people are told they are placebo’s ahead of time.
maxdancona
 
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Reply Tue 23 Jan, 2018 07:17 am
@TheCobbler,
Quote:
You should learn from this infographic before spouting your right wing garbage.


This made me laugh.
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