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Turning The Ballot Box Against Republicans

 
 
coldjoint
 
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Reply Fri 27 Jul, 2018 04:37 pm
https://media.townhall.com/Townhall/Car/b/aria_c15891620180725120100.jpg
https://townhall.com/political-cartoons/2018/07/25/158917
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coldjoint
 
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Reply Fri 27 Jul, 2018 04:43 pm
https://media.townhall.com/Townhall/Car/b/lb180719c20180719075401.jpg
https://townhall.com/political-cartoons/2018/07/19/158824
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coldjoint
 
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Reply Fri 27 Jul, 2018 06:26 pm
Quote:
The Democrats Are No Longer a Patriotic Party


No kidding?
https://stream.org/the-democrats-are-no-longer-a-patriotic-party/
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firefly
 
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Reply Sat 28 Jul, 2018 12:37 pm
Trump’s Fake Fix for a Bad Economic Policy

Using tax dollars to bailout farmers hurt by President Trump’s tariffs is not the way to strengthen the economy.

By Walter E. Block
Mr. Block is a professor of economics at Loyola University in New Orleans.
July 26, 2018

As an economist who shares President Trump’s belief that we should be cutting taxes and shrinking government, I might be expected to be enthralled by his policies. But that is not the sentiment I and many other libertarians feel when it comes to his decision to impose tariffs on steel, aluminum and a host of other products made overseas, particularly in China.

On Wednesday, Mr. Trump and the president of the European Commission, Jean-Claude Juncker, said they had reached an agreement to step back from a trade war and to discuss ways to lower tariffs and other trade barriers, and possibly increase European imports of American soybeans. But the outcome of those talks is far from certain, and trade tensions between the United States and China remain very high.

What is driving the president’s apparent eagerness to impose tariffs is a simple and wrongheaded idea that plays to a large part of his base: A trade war will spur job growth in America. He is trying to use tariffs to give a leg up to American industries against countries that manufacture the same products that we do — whether steel, aluminum or cars — but more efficiently. And who could be against that if it creates more jobs?

In reality, however, creating jobs alone does not make for a strong economy. What we really want is to increase production. And to achieve that, we need to allocate labor as efficiently as possible. One way to do that is to ensure that if other countries can make certain goods more efficiently than we can, we trade with them for these items, rather than manufacture them ourselves. The result is cheaper goods, which is to our advantage.

But tariffs do nothing to improve this efficient allocation of labor. They also do not increase or decrease employment. They just shift jobs around, and almost always in a manner that hurts the economy.

As an illustration, assume Mr. Trump is the governor of New York. He is devoted to making the Empire State “great again.” Right now, both New Yorkers and Iowans raise pigs — but Iowa produces far more than New York. So Governor Trump sets up a protective tariff against the importation of Iowa-raised pork. Will this make New York great again?

Hardly. There is a very good reason the Empire State does not produce a huge amount of this product: economic efficiency, the true path toward economic greatness. Of course, pork product jobs will increase in New York thanks to the Trump tariffs. But this is the way to ruin the state’s economy.

Surely, New Yorkers would be far better off continuing to produce goods and services in which they have a comparative advantage (Broadway shows, dairy products, financial services, jewelry, maybe even newspapers) and trading them for pork, rather than trying to grow more of it locally. Ditto for the Iowans. They, too, would be well advised to stick to what they do best and trade for what they want.

There are good reasons the United States is such a prosperous country, one of which is this: The country is a gigantic free-trade zone among the states. Yes, every once in a while a state legislature will get in the way. Wisconsin may try to reduce the importation of wine from California. But this only interferes with the specialization and the division of labor that maximizes output. Happily, the Supreme Court has typically given the back of its collective hand to all such attempted interferences with interstate economic freedom.

We would do well to apply the same principles to American trade with other countries. That is why Milton Friedman urged a unilateral declaration of free trade with all nations, regardless of their own restrictions on international trade.

The negative consequences of a trade war will soon be felt, if they aren’t already. Even if the United States avoids trade conflict with Europe, tariffs on steel and aluminum from China, Mexico and Canada will raise domestic prices, hurting consumers. And the administration is likely to find itself subsidizing voters who purchase these items or who are hurt when other countries slap tariffs on American goods in retaliation — mainly farmers, manufacturers and builders.

That is one reason Mr. Trump went to Iowa on Thursday: The state’s farm industry could be severely hurt by taxes or tariffs on American farm exports imposed by China and other countries in retaliation for Mr. Trump’s tariffs. So the president heralded a plan to provide as much as $12 billion in emergency relief to farmers caught in the trade crossfire. That is a $12 billion bailout using taxpayer funds for a problem the president himself created.

There are other, longer-term consequences of a trade war. After the commerce secretary, Wilbur Ross, announced in May that tariffs would be imposed on steel and aluminum imports from Mexico, Canada and the European Union, our European allies embraced greater trade relations with, of all places, Russia. Canada is sidling up to China. This will only hurt American exporters.

Maybe we should be happy that the president hasn’t yet kicked Hawaii out of the union and imposed a tariff on pineapples to strengthen the weak pineapple industry in other states. Absurd, yes, but hardly less bizarre than thinking tariffs on foreign goods will make the American economy great again.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/26/opinion/trump-tariffs-farmers-iowa-libertarian.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&version=Moth-Visible&moduleDetail=inside-nyt-region-4&module=inside-nyt-region&region=inside-nyt-region&WT.nav=inside-nyt-region
coldjoint
 
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Reply Sat 28 Jul, 2018 12:59 pm
@firefly,
Quote:
Using tax dollars to bailout farmers hurt by President Trump’s tariffs is not the way to strengthen the economy.

Is that worse than stealing from Medicare to fund a disastrous ACA? Which one has lasting repercussions? Not temporary aid to farmers. Another manufactured crisis. Means 0.
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Sat 28 Jul, 2018 01:06 pm
@firefly,
Nobody over here wants American GMO soybeans. There's no market, and even if it does reach the shelves it will have to be labelled.

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--5bx98_vS--/1360889241256397093.jpg

http://thehealthavengers.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/51-690x361.jpg
coldjoint
 
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Reply Sat 28 Jul, 2018 01:21 pm
@izzythepush,
Quote:
Nobody over here wants American GMO soybeans. There's no market, and even if it does reach the shelves it will have to be labelled.

Mendel should have been burned at the stake. Back then it was called science.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 28 Jul, 2018 01:46 pm
@firefly,
Trump is a dangerous moron who does not understand economics or social science. Protectionism fails everybody because it overrides competition in the free marketplace. Free markets improve quality and price; that's Econ 101. I'm not sure how Trump graduated from Wharton.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Sat 28 Jul, 2018 01:51 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
that's Econ 101

That is over 4% growth.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 28 Jul, 2018 03:49 pm
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:
Nobody over here wants American GMO soybeans. There's no market, and even if it does reach the shelves it will have to be labelled.
Is there enough non-GMO to satisfy demand?

If not, then people who can't buy non-GMO will have to eat GMO.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Sat 28 Jul, 2018 04:58 pm
@oralloy,
Quote:
If not, then people who can't buy non-GMO will have to eat GMO.

In the UK eating Halal is what matters.
Quote:
At a conference called "Agri-biotechnology: Shariah Compliance" held in Malaysia in December 2010 by the Malaysian Biotechnology Information Centre (MABIC) and International Halal Integrity Alliance (IHIA), participants "adopted a resolution that accepts GM crops and products as halal should all ingredients used to develop them are from halal sources....The only Haram [forbidden] cases are limited to products derived from Haram origin retaining their original characteristics that are not substantially changed."[11]

That sure makes me rest easier.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halal
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Blickers
 
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Reply Sat 28 Jul, 2018 05:52 pm
@oralloy,
Quote oralloy:
Quote:
Is there enough non-GMO to satisfy demand?

If not, then people who can't buy non-GMO will have to eat GMO.


Or do themselves a big favor and stop using estrogenic soybeans of any type and use nonGMO something else.
oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 28 Jul, 2018 06:38 pm
@Blickers,
Is there enough non-GMO stuff to feed everyone?
MontereyJack
 
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Reply Sat 28 Jul, 2018 07:02 pm
@oralloy,
No starvation on europe, i.e. yes.
MontereyJack
 
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Reply Sat 28 Jul, 2018 07:04 pm
@MontereyJack,
Trump got hoodwinked
Blickers
 
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Reply Sat 28 Jul, 2018 07:05 pm
@MontereyJack,
LOL, what else is new?
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Sat 28 Jul, 2018 11:15 pm
@Blickers,
If I thought GMO products caused mental retardation a couple of posts by Pinkie and Oral are hardly likely to convince me otherwise.
glitterbag
 
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Reply Sat 28 Jul, 2018 11:31 pm
@izzythepush,
That didn’t occur to me, but you’re right.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Sun 29 Jul, 2018 05:36 am
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:
No starvation on europe, i.e. yes.
No starvation does not necessarily mean that there is enough non-GMO to go around.

I suspect that we can break into the market a bit.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Sun 29 Jul, 2018 05:37 am
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:
If I thought GMO products caused mental retardation a couple of posts by Pinkie and Oral are hardly likely to convince me otherwise.
I know better than to expect European serfs to believe the truth. I was just curious if there was enough of a non-GMO shortage to force some of them to start eating GMO against their will.

I suspect that we will be able to achieve this.

Time will tell.
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