Turning The Ballot Box Against Republicans

That's like saying if there have been 10 traffic accidents at a corner without a stop sign in the last 2 years, don't go to the city or town and tell them to put in a stop sign, just stop at that corner yourself and leave it at that.

False analogy. I'm talking about standing up for something and following your own advice, you know putting your money where your mouth is.

A better analogy and one I'm sure you would appreciate, would be if someone were pro-war during Iraq and Afghanistan and talked all that **** about killing terrorists but refused to join the military.

No, my analogy was fine. If a few rich people-say 5%-decided to pay more in taxes than the tax laws required, there would still be a huge shortfall because 95% of the wealthy would pay as little as the law allowed. But if a wealthy man-and with wealth usually comes influence-used his influence to try to get the law changed so that the ALL the wealthy had to pay more, that would be more effective.

The rich man who paid as low as the law allowed him to would NOT be a hypocrite unless he actually paid less than what was legal.

No Record of Rick Perry Voting in Texas Republican Primary
Source: Political Wire

Former Texas Gov. Rick Perry (R) may have stumped for Ted Cruz for president, “but there’s no record he voted in this year’s Republican primary in Texas,” the Texas Tribune reports.

“Perry’s failure to vote in this year’s Texas primary could lead to more speculation that he is interested in running as an independent candidate for president.”

“There are two key requirements in Texas for someone to run as an independent candidate for president. First, a candidate would have had to abstain from voting in one of the state’s primaries because doing so would declare themselves as either a Democrat or Republican. Second, a candidate would need to gather 79,939 signatures by May 9 from Texans who had also not voted in either of the primaries that year.”

Read more: https://politicalwire.com/2016/03/30/perry-didnt-vote-in-texas-primary/

You mean like Mitt Romney who paid an effective IRS tax rate of just under 14%? Or NBC which manages to pay $0 many years??? Like those good citizens???

Bitching about it without actually doing it makes one a hypocrite.

It's never about a single person, it's always them and their friends. Do the Hollywood elite not make a good deal of the wealth in LA and live there as well? A few of them my ass, they could make a difference by paying more and then like everything else the left likes to do, they can shame others into doing so and then use that to get the laws changed.

Does Romney crusade or complain about the lack of taxes the wealthy pay? There are plenty of rich and wealthy liberals who should put their money where their mouths are.

Now you might have a point with NBC and their MSNBC branch.

Like I said, your argument makes as much sense as the person who has seen 10 accidents in two years at a residential street corner that has no stop sign deciding to stop at the corner himself instead of advocating for the stop sign that will get EVERYONE to stop and prevent accidents. One or two people stopping on their own are not going to make the corner safer. You need a stop sign put up to make the corner safer. You're not a hypocrite if you are wealthy and advocate for higher taxes for the wealthy while paying the amount required by the law itself.

When are you conservatives going to start paying attention to the logic of an argument, instead of just arguing by accusation?

Its the whole I got mine, **** you attitude. They want the structure of society but not the responsibility or the obligations.

People have different views on what the govt should be responsible for. Why does it have to be all or nothing with you guys?

You got that screwed up. You're the nothing guy.

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Political Analyst Larry J. Sabato, was on CNN today. And his companies impartial research has confirmed what all Hillary Clinton supporters have always believed. He said; "Here at the Crystal Ball, we are using one central fact about presidential elections: The only thing that matters is accumulating a majority of 270 votes in the Electoral College.
If the election were today. With the front runners Donald Trump vs Hillary Clinton.
Clinton would be the winner hands down.
Election analysts prefer close elections, but there was nothing we could do to make this one close. Clinton's total is 347 electoral votes, which includes 190 safe, 57 likely, and 100 that lean in her direction. Trump has a total of 191 (142 safe, 48 likely, and 1 leans). That's a whopping big difference of 157 electoral votes in Clinton's favor.
The newest map, as you will see, does not show a close and competitive general election. The Republicans now find themselves in a deep hole. "

That certainly reflects whats going on as far as I can tell. I hear also of Republican politicians endorsing Hillary Clinton and of Republican rank who are voting for Hillary or Bernie.

You have raised no money at all for state elections? That burns...

Looking out for the little guy, the 99% ehh Bernie? (cynical)

How are you going to push your ambitious policies, and fulfill promises when you help no one get elected who supports you?

I don't know who told you that, but they lied to you, brother!








Bernie Sanders: Prolific Democratic Party fundraiser
http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/05/politics/sanders-democratic-fundraisers/index.html

Manchester, New Hampshire (CNN)Bernie Sanders complained on the campaign trail Friday that dialing for dollars "affects your entire being."
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What he didn't mention: The Vermont senator and presidential candidate is a prolific fundraiser himself and has regularly benefited from the Democratic Party apparatus.

In recent years, Sanders has been billed as one of the hosts for the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee's retreats for the "Majority Trust" -- an elite group of top donors who give more than $30,000 per year -- at Martha's Vineyard in the summer and Palm Beach, Florida, in the winter. CNN has obtained invitations that listed Sanders as a host for at least one Majority Trust event in each year since 2011.
The retreats are typically attended by 100 or more donors who have either contributed the annual legal maximum of $33,400 to the DSCC, raised more than $100,000 for the party or both.
Sanders has based his presidential campaign on a fire-and-brimstone critique of a broken campaign finance system -- and of Hillary Clinton for her reliance on big-dollar Wall Street donors. But Sanders is part of that system, and has helped Democrats court many of the same donors.
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A Democratic lobbyist and donor who has attended the retreats told CNN that about 25% of the attendees there represent the financial sector -- and that Sanders and his wife, Jane, are always present.
"At each of the events all the senators speak. And I don't recall him ever giving a speech attacking us," the donor said. "While progressive, his remarks were always in the mainstream of what you hear from senators."
Sanders' political leanings were well known by the donors who attended the retreats. "Nobody was more surprised that Bernie was there than the donors were," said another Democrat who attended the retreats.
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But Sanders maintains that members of Congress now spend far too much time making calls seeking campaign contributions -- or "dialing for dollars," he said during a speech at the New England Council's "Politics and Eggs" event Friday morning.
"That's what they do. And not only should members who are elected be working for the people, not raising money -- if you think you could simply divide your brain in half, if you're working on unemployment or health care and think, now I've gotta go out and raise money, it affects your entire being," he said.
Benefits from Democratic establishment
Sanders has been an Independent while in Congress, but has caucused with the Democrats since he was elected to the Senate in 2006, helping them maintain their majority for eight years.
Michael Briggs, a Sanders spokesman, said Sanders has "raised more money for the Senate Democrats than almost any other member of the Senate Democratic caucus" because he sees helping the party regain the majority as critical.
"He has in the past written letters and helped Senate Democrats elect Democrats. He thinks that's very important to the country," Briggs said.
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He got a hand from the party in 1996, when Rob Engel, then the political director for the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, pushed a Democratic contender out of the race for the House seat Sanders held as an independent.
In 2006, when Sanders ran for the Senate, the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee pumped $37,300 into his race and included him in fundraising efforts for the party's Senate candidates.
The party also spent $60,000 on ads for Sanders, and contributed $100,000 to the Vermont Democratic Party -- which was behind Sanders even as he ran as an independent.
Among the DSCC's top contributors that year: Goldman Sachs at $685,000, Citigroup at $326,000, Morgan Stanley at $260,000 and JPMorgan Chase & Co. at $207,000.
During that 2006 campaign, Sanders attended a fundraiser at the Cambridge, Massachusetts home of Abby Rockefeller -- a member of the same family whose wealth he had one proposed confiscating.
Two years later, when then-Illinois Sen. Barack Obama was being nominated at the Democratic National Convention in 2008, Sanders was among the senators who met with Sen. Chuck Schumer's "Legacy Circle" donors who had given the legal maximum to the DSCC five years in a row or $500,000 over their lifetimes.
He paid dues to the DSCC, too, with his Progressive Voters of America political action committee cutting checks for $30,000 to the group during the 2014 election cycle.
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Broken system?
Sanders told the "Politics and Eggs" crowd that he favors a public financing system for elections, eliminating campaign contributions entirely. But his presidential campaign, just as Clinton's and Barack Obama's in 2008 and 2012, has chosen to bypass that system, allowing Sanders to raise millions of dollars more.
He has repeatedly touted his campaign's vast online fundraising apparatus, which has pulled in 3.5 million individual contributions, averaging $27 apiece, Sanders said Friday.
Pressed by MSNBC moderator Chuck Todd on why he hasn't accepted public financing in Thursday night's debate, Sanders said the system as it exists now is "a disaster" and "very antiquated" because it limits spending in early-voting primary states.
"The way it is structured right now, if you make it all the way to California, you could do pretty well. But in terms of the early states -- Iowa, New Hampshire, the other states -- it just doesn't work," Sanders said.