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Turning The Ballot Box Against Republicans

 
 
MontereyJack
 
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Reply Tue 21 Apr, 2020 05:52 am
@oralloy,
What you think are facts are not facts, but your absurd opinions. And the sheer volume of your repetitious inanities is a temper tirade, deny it how you may.
oralloy
 
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Reply Tue 21 Apr, 2020 05:55 am
@MontereyJack,
That is incorrect. Facts are not opinions no matter how inconvenient you find them.

Falsely accusing me of a temper tirade is just as silly as falsely accusing me of racism. All your silliness does is make you look silly.
oralloy
 
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Reply Tue 21 Apr, 2020 05:57 am
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:
Biden had nothing to do with it,

The impeachment witch hunt was an attempt to remove Mr. Trump from office so that Joe Biden might have a shot at winning in November.


MontereyJack wrote:
and it was done in early feb.

As I said, the impeachment disrupted the government for the first month of the pandemic.


MontereyJack wrote:
Trump golfed and held rallies after his lickspittle lackies in thesenate shirked their duty. He wasted valuable weeks with no excuse.

Those weeks were wasted because of Joe Biden's impeachment witch hunt.
oralloy
 
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Reply Tue 21 Apr, 2020 06:01 am
If you want to see an example of a "temper tirade" look at those whiny brats from Parkland.

Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing
MontereyJack
 
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Reply Tue 21 Apr, 2020 06:06 am
@oralloy,
The steely determination of the Parkland survivors, whom you mistakenly call whiny brats, cost 26 NRA minions their seats in Congress in 2018. More to be sent back home this fall.
oralloy
 
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Reply Tue 21 Apr, 2020 06:06 am
@MontereyJack,
Pro-liberty Congressmen are quite popular in rural districts. The whiny brats are not going to oust anyone from a rural district.

Calling them whiny brats is no mistake:

https://images2.imgbox.com/e0/42/4oZ8Jstr_o.jpg
https://twitter.com/DineshDSouza/status/966078572321562625

https://www.gannett-cdn.com/media/2018/02/20/USATODAY/USATODAY/636547353091154050-04.JPG
MontereyJack
 
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Reply Tue 21 Apr, 2020 06:07 am
@oralloy,
cat got hour tongue?
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MontereyJack
 
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Reply Tue 21 Apr, 2020 06:09 am
@oralloy,
If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck.....
oralloy
 
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Reply Tue 21 Apr, 2020 06:11 am
@MontereyJack,
Except the only racists here are you and cobbler. You cannot provide any examples of racism on my part.
MontereyJack
 
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Reply Tue 21 Apr, 2020 06:19 am
@oralloy,
I have. pull your head out of the sand.
oralloy
 
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Reply Tue 21 Apr, 2020 06:20 am
@MontereyJack,
You've never once backed up your accusations with examples.
MontereyJack
 
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Reply Tue 21 Apr, 2020 06:22 am
@oralloy,
the 2020 census will refllect the continuing hollowing out of rural America as it moves to the city. Your geriatric constituency is shrinking and dying off.
MontereyJack
 
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Reply Tue 21 Apr, 2020 06:23 am
@oralloy,
Pull your head out of the sand,
oralloy
 
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Reply Tue 21 Apr, 2020 06:24 am
@MontereyJack,
I'm not a progressive. My head's not in the sand to begin with.
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oralloy
 
  0  
Reply Tue 21 Apr, 2020 06:25 am
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:
the 2020 census will refllect the continuing hollowing out of rural America as it moves to the city. Your geriatric constituency is shrinking and dying off.

Rural areas are doing just fine. And we're going to keep electing Congressmen who value freedom and civil liberties.
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neptuneblue
 
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Reply Tue 21 Apr, 2020 06:26 am
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:
The impeachment witch hunt was an attempt to remove Mr. Trump from office so that Joe Biden might have a shot at winning in November.


That is false. Trump was impeached because he broke the law. Republicans covered it up and as such, just as culpable.

"OMB’s assertions have no basis in law. We recognize that, even where the President does not transmit a special message pursuant to the procedures established by the ICA, it is possible that a delay in obligation may not constitute a reportable impoundment. See B-329092, Dec. 12, 2017; B-222215, Mar. 28, 1986. However, programmatic delays occur when an agency is taking necessary steps to implement a program, but because of factors external to the program, funds temporarily go unobligated. B-329739, Dec. 19, 2018; B-291241, Oct. 8, 2002; B-241514.5, May 7, 1991. This presumes, of course, that the agency is making reasonable efforts to obligate. B-241514.5, May 7, 1991. Here, there was no external factor causing an unavoidable delay. Rather, OMB on its own volition
explicitly barred DOD from obligating amounts. "

https://www.gao.gov/assets/710/703909.pdf

To not follow the Rule of Law is what Republicans do.
oralloy
 
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Reply Tue 21 Apr, 2020 06:27 am
@neptuneblue,
That is incorrect. All presidents withhold aid to pressure countries into doing what they want them to do.

In fact, during the Obama Administration, Joe Biden himself withheld aid to Ukraine to make them to what he wanted them to do.
https://dailytorch.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/02-Corrupt-Ukr-DT-990.jpg
https://dailytorch.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/QPQ-Joe-n-Coup-DT-990.jpg
neptuneblue
 
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Reply Tue 21 Apr, 2020 06:36 am
@oralloy,
Disagreeing with the GAO's findings is inconvenient for Republicans. Lying and cheating is not honorable in any way.

"The burden to justify a withholding of budget authority rests with the executive branch. Here, OMB has failed to meet this burden. We conclude that OMB violated the ICA when it withheld USAI funds for a policy reason."

https://www.gao.gov/assets/710/703909.pdf
oralloy
 
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Reply Tue 21 Apr, 2020 06:44 am
@neptuneblue,
neptuneblue wrote:
Disagreeing with the GAO's findings is inconvenient for Republicans.

I doubt it. I just disagreed with their findings, and I wasn't inconvenienced even a little bit.


neptuneblue wrote:
Lying and cheating is not honorable in any way.

That's why progressives are so dishonorable.

Their latest scam is to try in various ways to cheat their proposals onto the Michigan ballot this November because they can't get enough legitimate signatures.

https://www.mlive.com/public-interest/2019/11/years-after-starting-signature-collection-anti-fracking-group-continues-legal-effort-to-get-on-michigan-ballot.html

https://www.mlive.com/public-interest/2020/04/group-trying-to-put-lgbt-initiative-on-michigan-ballots-turns-to-electronic-signatures.html


Proponents of the anti-abortion initiative were able to get enough signatures without cheating:

https://www.mlive.com/public-interest/2019/12/supporters-of-abortion-procedure-ban-in-michigan-submit-379418-signatures.html
neptuneblue
 
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Reply Tue 21 Apr, 2020 06:58 am
@oralloy,
Trump and Republicans know if they tell the truth, they have no chance at "winning" anything. That's why evidence was not allowed in the IMPEACHMENT trial, they know they'd be screwed. As more and more documents are declassified and presented to the American people, they'll see for themselves how duped they were. And again, that's why Trump is fighting so hard about oversight.

Trump Fires Intel IG, Taps White House Confidant for Pandemic Oversight Role
The president’s moves late Friday night underscore the vital role inspectors general play as agencies grapple with pandemic response and unprecedented federal spending.
APRIL 4, 2020

KATHERINE MCINTIRE PETERS
Deputy Editor

President Trump late Friday shook up the federal inspector general community by firing one of its stalwarts and announcing his intention to nominate five new IGs, including one to oversee the government’s pandemic response.

Trump notified Congress late Friday night that he was removing Intelligence Community Inspector General Michael Atkinson from his position within 30 days. Atkinson drew White House condemnation after he alerted Congress last September—as required by law—to the whistleblower complaint that led to Trump’s impeachment.

In his letter to Congress, obtained by the Washington Post, Trump wrote: “It is vital that I have the fullest confidence in the appointees serving as inspectors general. That is no longer the case with regard to this inspector general.”

Michael Horowitz, chairman of the Council of the Inspectors General on Integrity and Efficiency and the Justice Department IG, blasted the move in a statement early Saturday:

“Inspector General Atkinson is known throughout the Inspector General community for his integrity, professionalism, and commitment to the rule of law and independent oversight. That includes his actions in handling the Ukraine whistleblower complaint, which the then Acting Director of National Intelligence stated in congressional testimony was done 'by the book' and consistent with the law.”

After Atkinson's firing, Thomas Monheim, a career intelligence officer, now serves as acting Intelligence Community IG.

Additionally, the White House said Trump would nominate Peter Thomson to become inspector general of the Central Intelligence Agency. Thomson is currently an attorney at Stone Pigman Walther Wittmann, LLC, in New Orleans where he co-chairs the firm’s White Collar Criminal Defense and Information Security Practices, according to the announcement.

According to the firm's website: "Our knowledge of the white collar criminal defense practice can assist individuals and businesses targeted by government investigations, including those charged with securities fraud, mail or wire fraud, money laundering, Medicaid or Medicare fraud, or federal or state Racketeering in Corrupt Organization (RICO) statutes."

Pandemic Spending Oversight

Also late Friday night, Trump announced his intention to tap Brian Miller, currently Special Assistant to the President and Senior Associate Counsel in the Office of White House Counsel, for the job of Special Inspector General for Pandemic Recovery at the Treasury Department. The new position was created by the Coronavirus Aid, Relief, and Economic Security Act and is one of several mechanisms designed to ensure taxpayers are not fleeced as agencies implement the largest spending bill in history.

But when Trump signed the CARES Act on March 27, he issued a signing statement specifically objecting to the creation of a special IG for pandemic recovery at Treasury empowered to request information from other agencies and report to Congress any delays in receiving that information: “I do not understand, and my administration will not treat, this provision as permitting the SIGPR to issue reports to the Congress without the presidential supervision required by the Take Care Clause, Article II, section 3,” the signing statement said.

Michael Thorning, associate director of governance at the Bipartisan Policy Center, said Trump's position "undermines the independence and integrity of this new office and Congress’ ability to conduct oversight at a time when the public deserves independent reviews of how this $2 trillion is spent," in a Friday op-ed for Government Executive.

While Miller has related prior IG experience—he served for nearly 10 years as the General Services Administration’s Senate-confirmed watchdog where he oversaw a string of high profile waste and fraud investigations—he will face considerable scrutiny in Congress in the new role if he is confirmed by the Senate.

Other IGs also will be watching. Horowitz stressed the importance of the pandemic oversight role in his statement:

“The Inspector General Community will continue to conduct aggressive, independent oversight of the agencies that we oversee. This includes CIGIE’s Pandemic Response Accountability Committee and its efforts on behalf of American taxpayers, families, businesses, patients, and health care providers to ensure that over $2 trillion dollars in emergency federal spending is being used consistently with the law’s mandate.”

In addition to Thompson and Miller, Trump also announced his intention to nominate three other officials for IG roles:

Jason Abend to be Defense Department IG. Abend currently serves as senior policy advisor at Customs and Border Protection.
Andrew De Mello to be Education Department IG. De Mello currently serves as a Justice Department trial attorney for the Tax Division He has been on detail to the Homeland Security Department IG’s office as a senior special counsel since October 2019.
Katherine Crytzer to be Tennessee Valley Authority IG. Crytzer currently serves as the Justice Department’s acting deputy assistant attorney general in the Office of Legal Policy.
Correction: President Trump announced he would nominate Peter Thompson to become the CIA IG, not Atkinson's replacement as initially reported.
 

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