Under-inflated balls!

@George,

George. . . Is that you? You look different.
Anyway.
Yes. As a Seahawk fan I would say anything less from the Grapper and, should the Pats miss the Super Bowl, we will never hear the end of caterwauling northeast whines.

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@neologist,

Seattle be buggin' ...

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What's the difference between a Seahawks fan and a baby?

The baby will stop whining after a while.

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All Pete Rose had to do was bet on his own team to win to get a lifetime suspension.

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@George,

What do the Seahawks have to do with this fake scandal? They got their assess kicked fair and square with balls inflated to their proper pressure.

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@edgarblythe,

Re Pete Rose: Hard to listen after all these years and claims/counter-claims. Ole Pete has served more than 25 yrs of his sentence. Furthermore, while he was a player, he committed no offense.
Gotta let him into HOF.

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@maxdancona,

Nothin

Just talkin trash with my man Neo

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@maxdancona,

You've been on A2K a long time so you know the dynamics. We not so strict and stray from subjects...especially after the topic has been hashed out quite a bit. That's entertainment!

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@George,

Besides.
I wuz puttin' in a good word for the Grapper.
I hope he wins all 4

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@neologist,

I've liked what I've read about Garappolo and would like to see him do ok to very well during Brady's suspension.

Re Brady, personally he seems oddly childish to me for a grown-up, long term and admired player - his LA area house (well, plenty of athletes have ugly ass houses), the involvement in the balls cheating), but of course I don't know him, that's just perception.

I read a lot of sports news from varied sources and I think I notice a pro-Brady bias from east coast posters or sportswriters, and anti from the west/midwest, but again, that is perception.

I've started following the Denver Post and I participated in their poll for how long the suspension it should be. Once you vote, then you can see the results - hugely, overwhelmingly, for at the least a six weeks suspension at the time I saw the resulting numbers.
I read one of the San Francisco papers, the main sports writer very pithy/anti Brady.
I read a Seattle paper too, but don't remember my impression of their take now as I type.

Anyway, good luck to Garoppolo.

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@neologist,

Here's what I think about the number of games in the suspension.

The NFL Clown Show believed that two games was an appropriate
suspension. But they are a bunch of weenies who don't want to be
perceived as in Bob Kraft's pocket or willing to put up with Brady's refusal to
turn over his personal cell phone or emails. So they issue a four-game
suspension, knowing that Brady will appeal and that an independent agency
will decide the suspension is too large and cut it in half.

Then the Clowns can say "Hey, we tried!"

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@George,

I agree.

The irony to me in all this is that any advantage a QB could gain by under-inflation has never been proved/proven. More proof of that, once it was past halftime after the new properly inflated balls were swapped in, he did great. It made no difference to the game.

The reason the powers-that-be are throwing the book at him/Pats is due to the Belicheckian scandal of past plus Brady's arrogance and refusal/lack of cooperation to submit his cell-phone for evidence.

I say sit him down for 2 games. They've treated child beaters with less punishment than this proposed 4 games sit-down. Let's find a consistency around penalties, fines and/or punishment.

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@Ragman,

Let's play Point-Counter Point, shall we:

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The reason the powers-that-be are throwing the book at him/Pats is due to the Belicheckian scandal of past plus Brady's arrogance and refusal to submit his cell-phone for evidence.

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The NFL’s letter outlining the penalty cited “the club's prior record”—namely, the Spygate scandal—as a factor “in determining the discipline in this case.” Leaving aside the fact that Spygate was an overblown misdemeanor punished with unduly harsh measures, the important thing here is that the Patriots already did the time for that 2007 crime. If you recall, they forfeited a first-round pick in the 2008 draft and Bill Belichick was fined a league maximum $500,000. And the people blamed for that infraction—namely Belichick—are not even the same people being blamed for this one. Why are the Patriots as a franchise being repunished for a years-old mistake they previously made amends for, and for which the primary culprits were completely different than the current ones? If we’re going to start using teams’ past transgressions as a basis for levying present-day punishments, no team’s record is clean.

The letter also cites as a factor in the harsh punishment “the failure of Tom Brady to produce any electronic evidence, despite being offered extraordinary safeguards by the investigators to protect unrelated personal information.” Yikes. What kind of totalitarian inquisition was this? Brady answered the investigators’ questions in person. His reluctance to turn over emails and texts was perfectly reasonable—would you trust the NFL to safeguard your private communications with your friends, family, and superfamous, smokeshow wife? A football-related matter does not give the NFL broad license to poke around in a player’s personal files. Go get a warrant, NFL. Where are we meant to draw the line here? If the NFL had demanded to search Brady’s home, or to audit his financial holdings, would Brady have not been within his rights to refuse, according to Torquemada Goodell

http://www.slate.com/articles/sports/sports_nut/2015/05/roger_goodell_s_deflategate_punishment_of_tom_brady_and_the_new_england.html

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@hawkeye10,

I think this this was a message to the whole league..albeit a tone-deaf or off-center one. No damage to the integrity of the 'shield'or cheating of any sort will be tolerated...now! If you're going to cheat..now is not the time.

Goodell..is a phony and high-paid phony at $40-$44M+. The Ray Rice scandal...caught them vacillating and napping. Now he's kicking ass...no idea how to run a corporation.

Bad-dell should go back to mucking up the law in board rooms and leave our feetball the hell alone.

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@Ragman,

Ragman wrote:

I think this this was a message to the whole league..albeit a tone-deaf or off-center one. No damage to the integrity of the 'shield'or cheating of any sort will be tolerated...now! If you're going to cheat..now is not the time.

Overly harsh punishment meant as message sending to people not under review is injustice. I reject the practice.

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@hawkeye10,

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Message sending to people not under review is not a part of justice. I reject the practice.

Whether or not we agree...that is clearly his practice. The smell has gotten putrid and putrid-er.

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@Ragman,

Ragman wrote:

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Message sending to people not under review is not a part of justice. I reject the practice.

Whether or not we agree...that is clearly his practice. The smell has gotten putrid and putrid-er.

The stink you smell is an employer determined to play stern daddy, and practicing injustice as it does. We the people should not be happy. Laber is most certainly not happy. THe NFL will in time face the music.

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I'm no fan of beating children or women or men either; I'm also no fan of cheating in sports (many many sports over many many years). I'm no fan of Goodell.

Slime has many faces. In the case of the underinflated balls situation, the slime has a silly side, but is not nothing, and should be incentivized against.

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@ossobuco,

Goodell...caught in the last few years..with his head up his ass...is again uneven and clueless with his punishment. When and if he appeals (Brady has until Thurs to register the appeal), they'll drag more ugliness out of this fiasco. Not trying to play devil's advocate, I feel that some punishment should be levied here.. but this shot at it was/is overboard.

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@Ragman,

Disagree!

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