coldjoint
 
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Reply Tue 13 Jan, 2015 11:02 am
@Walter Hinteler,


A mistake by someone or source I did not use is again irrelevant. The Muslim problem is real and growing. Again, your marginalization works for you, Wally, not me.
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coldjoint
 
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Reply Tue 13 Jan, 2015 11:40 am
Quote:
Germany Bracing for Islamic Terror


Not Wally.http://www.alien-earth.org/images/smileys/hiding.gif
Quote:

The offices of a German newspaper that republished satirical cartoons from Charlie Hebdo, a French magazine known for lampooning Islam, have been hit by arsonists.

No one was hurt in the attack on the Hamburger Morgenpost, which occurred in the early morning hours of January 11 and caused only minor damage.

Although police arrested two individuals in connection with the incident, their identities have not yet been released to the public. But German police said they are "working under the assumption" that the attack was connected to the decision by the paper, also known as MOPO, to republish cartoons spoofing Mohammed on its front page on January 8, as an act of solidarity with the attack on the journalists of Charlie Hebdo.


Below is the source, not Emerson.
http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/5035/germany-bracing-for-islamic-terror

Quote:
PEGIDA offshoots are also emerging across Germany, including: Bavaria (BAGIDA), Berlin (BAERGIDA), Cologne (KöGIDA), Hamburg (HAGIDA), Kassel (KAGIDA), Leipzig (LEGIDA), Rostock (ROGIDA), Südthüringen (SüGIDA) and Würzburg (WüGIDA).

On its Facebook page, PEGIDA wrote that the attack against Charlie Hebdo in Paris confirmed its worst fears. It warned:

"The Islamists who PEGIDA has been warning about for 12 weeks showed France that they are incapable of democracy and rather look to violence and death as an answer! Our politicians want us to believe the opposite. Must such a tragedy happen here in Germany first???"

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coldjoint
 
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Reply Tue 13 Jan, 2015 11:45 am
A honest politician. That now probably needs 24 hour protection.



coldjoint
 
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Reply Tue 13 Jan, 2015 11:51 am
Quote:
After Paris: German Police “Powerless” Against Extremists

Quote:
Germany is a major player here, with marches by the anti-Islamist activists of PEGIDA, intemperately denounced by Chancellor Angela Merkel despite their peaceful character, having seen their numbers rise after the Paris horror. I’ve previously written about how serious a problem with Islamist violence and extremism Germany confronts, and the gravity of the situation is now being realized by the public.

Since when are Nazis peaceful?
Quote:
The numbers of Salafists have risen sharply in Germany in recent years, from 4,500 in 2012 to 7,000 today, of whom ten percent are assessed by the BKA as being capable of violence (i.e. jihadism). There are thirty Islamist groups active in Germany, and today they are found not just in big cities like Berlin, Düsseldorf or Frankfurt, but also in regional cities like Solingen, Aachen, Bonn, and Siegen in the western part of the country.


http://20committee.com/2015/01/13/after-paris-german-police-powerless-against-extremists/
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 13 Jan, 2015 12:08 pm
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:
Since when are Nazis peaceful?
It's always how you define peaceful.
The demonstration of PEGIDA in Munich (there called Bagida) had as "frontrunner" André E. This peaceful and noble man is otherwise and at day time in a Munich court, accused of belonging to terrorist Neo-Nazi group (NSU) and the murdering of seven persons. But since he is innocent until proven guilty, he's of course a peaceful Nazi.

The latest number of Salifinist, published a few days ago by the Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution, is 6.300. (The mentioned BKA is a police force [Federal Criminal Police Office] and not working like an intelligence agency.)

Peaceful were the 150.000 anti-demonstration demonstrators last weekend as well.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 13 Jan, 2015 12:16 pm
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:
A honest politician. That now probably needs 24 hour protection.
I don't know how good your Dutch is. And if you heard more than the few minutes of that clip (or read what he said).

Oh, but you do know that he is a practising Muslim and Socialist?
In the Netherlands, Ahmed Aboutaleb is called the vertegenwoordiger van de islamitische gemeenschap ('the sales representative of the Muslim community').

But really an honest politicians, as you already said, one of the strongest opponents of Wilders and other right-wing nuts.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Tue 13 Jan, 2015 12:31 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
You are still deflecting Wally. Just admit that you are a well read dhimmi.http://www.alien-earth.org/images/smileys/worship.gif
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coldjoint
 
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Reply Tue 13 Jan, 2015 12:32 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Quote:
Wilders and other right-wing nuts.


Any stats on their body count? Who have they killed for what they believe?
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 13 Jan, 2015 12:33 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
I've just read that Ahmed Aboutaleb wasn't only the first Muslim mayor of any larger European town but still is the only mayor who preaches in a Mosque.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 13 Jan, 2015 12:34 pm
@coldjoint,
I don't know. Do you?

But that wasn't in my response - my post dealt with what that mayor did and does, an honest politician as you wrote yourself.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Tue 13 Jan, 2015 12:36 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Quote:
I don't know. Do you?

0
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coldjoint
 
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Reply Thu 15 Jan, 2015 10:37 am
Quote:
Pegida: The New German Revolution


It is happening, with or without you, Wally.

Quote:
A recent poll, dating from before the terror attacks in France, found that one in three Germans support the Pegida anti-Islamization marches. Further, a new study by the Bertelsmann Foundation found that German attitudes toward Islam are hardening, with 61% saying in 2014 that Islam is "not suited to the Western world" -- up from 52% in 2012. Also, up to 57% of the Germans see Islam as a threat, 40% feel that they are becoming foreigners in their own country because of the Muslim presence, and 24% want to ban Muslim immigration.[/quote]

http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/5034/pegida-german-revolution#.VLeUaroQfUw.twitter
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 15 Jan, 2015 10:54 am
@coldjoint,
Quote:
A recent opinion poll found that one in eight Germans would join an anti-Islamization march if it were organized in their home town. The poll, published last Thursday by Forsa for Germany's Stern magazine, also found 29 percent of those interviewed believed that Islam was having such a strong influence on life in Germany that the marches were justified.
Source

Quote:
Protesters in the anti-Islamization movement PEGIDA are mostly dissatisfied with politics and elites in general, rather than specifically worried about Islamization, according to a survey.

The typical PEGIDA (Patriotic Europeans against the Islamization of the West) demonstrator is male, in his late forties, educated with an above-average salary and hails from the eastern state of Saxony, according to a survey among PEGIDA protesters carried out by the Technical University of Dresden, the city where the movement started.

Around 400 people were surveyed at the end of December, although roughly 65 percent of PEGIDA protesters refused to take part.
Those who did take part mostly said that the demonstrations were "first and foremost an opportunity to express deep-seated but hitherto unarticulated resentment and discontent with the political and other elites," according to Hans Vorländer, who headed the study.

Twenty percent are also concerned about the work of the media. Resentment against asylum seekers and immigrants in general was also a major worry. And although around 42 percent of those surveyed expressed some form of prejudice against Islam and Muslims, a fear of Islamization is not their main concern.

Rather, according to Vorländer, the PEGIDA movement is a sign of a crisis of representative democracy in Germany - a worry that those "up there" are dictating to "us down here." Many are not prepared to accept the lengthy process of implementing anything in a democracy nor the compromises it takes for such a system to function, Vorländer explained.
Source
coldjoint
 
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Reply Thu 15 Jan, 2015 11:03 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Showing me some article from a liberal, progressive rag that does not understand, or worse, does understand that multi culturism is a failure means nothing.

More apologies and more blame directed at anyone but Muslims. Try again. Germans are pissed.


Quote:
Islam: the only religion that will kill you for not appreciating it
- and then claim that you're the one with the phobia.
farmerman
 
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Reply Thu 15 Jan, 2015 11:25 am
@coldjoint,
The German ultra right is like our own teabagger party (and the klan). It nees to create enemies of its "purity of essence"

PS, thatss probably why you chose pink.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 15 Jan, 2015 11:27 am
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:
Showing me some article from a liberal, progressive rag that does not understand, or worse, does understand that multi culturism is a failure means nothing.

More apologies and more blame directed at anyone but Muslims. Try again. Germans are pissed.

I just linked a German source about the German survey you linked from a foreign source (1)

My second quote is a German source again about the most recent survey.

So why is that a "liberal, progressive rag"?


But sine you're here: the first refugee already was murdered in Dresden - which certainly will please you.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 15 Jan, 2015 11:28 am
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:

The German ultra right is like our own teabagger party (and the klan).
Very similar. Besides that they use the Goebbels-vocabulary correctly.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 15 Jan, 2015 11:30 am
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:

PS, thatss probably why you chose pink.
Brown wouldn't be so readable.
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coldjoint
 
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Reply Thu 15 Jan, 2015 11:37 am
@farmerman,
Quote:
The German ultra right


Those people are not ultra anything. They do want to participate in cultural suicide. I am not sure Wally needs a lackey, but carry on, Blowhole.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 15 Jan, 2015 11:45 am
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:
Those people are not ultra anything.
We see it differently - they, too.

If anti-democratic hooligans (who call themselves "Ultras"!), neo-Nazis, who are accused of (at least) seven murders , if such persons aren't "ultra anything" ... who/what is it in your humble and well-educated intelligent mind here in Germany, Mr. Expert?
 

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