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Not everyone liked Reagan

 
 
Reply Sun 6 Jun, 2004 01:18 pm
TRIPOLI, Libya (Reuters) - Muammar Gaddafi (news - web sites) said Sunday he regretted
that former U.S. President Ronald Reagan (news - web sites) had died without ever being
tried for 1986 air strikes that killed dozens of people, including the Libyan leader's
adopted daughter.

The whole article is here...
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=564&e=1&u=/nm/people_reagan_gaddafi_dc
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steissd
 
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Reply Sun 6 Jun, 2004 01:28 pm
OK, President Reagan is not a $100 bill that is being liked by everyone. Of course, there can be people dissatisfied with his actions as a President. And not only Qaddafi. There were U.S. citizens that voted against Mr. Reagan's candidature in course of both elections won by him. It is normal in democratic country. But we must never forget that this was the President who won for his country the Cold War.
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Radikal
 
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Reply Sun 6 Jun, 2004 02:38 pm
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Some disliked Reagan is quite an understament!

He may have given the USSR a nudge but certainly didn't bring that confederation down. Their own leaders were responsible for the demise.

Here are a few reason many loathed Reagan's policies.

Fiscal irresponsibility. Ran MASSIVE deficits his entire term. We still pay interest on the bonds the government sold to borrow the money. Reagan claimed the tax cuts would generate more income to cover the deficits. It never happened--and is another Repug lie. We'll be paying interest on the $2 trillion of new debt Reagan added forever.

Tax burden shifted from wealthy to middle and poorer classes. Reagan cut the rates for the very highest paid, but increased the rates for those at the bottom. Contrary to Repug propaganda, Reagan signed the LARGEST TAX INCREASE in history into law. It boosted the payroll tax significantly on the lower income group.

Environmental setbacks. We went from progress in all areas of the environment to a standstill or worse everywhere. We still haven't gotten back on track and Bush* has made the trend very negative.

Social safety net for poor gutted. Reagan used the racist "welfare queen" propaganda to get even supposed Democrats to support him on this.

Accelerated the collapse of the union movement. Hiring scabs became the norm.

Supported many unsavory dictators and thugs. Got caught breaking the law illegally supporting the "Contras" in Nicaragua. The Contras were right wing goons opposed to the Socialist government.

Average Americans saw their standard of living decline during Reagan's two terms--in spite of economic growth. Trickle down was a miserable failure then, just like it is today.

Our mainstream media journalism is a joke because of Reagan dereguation.

Our social programs were savaged because of Reagan.

Our environmental regulations, once something to be proud of, were eviscerated by Reagan.

The manifest power of corporations over virtually every facet of our lives came because of the massive deregulations put forth by Reagan.

The AIDS virus found a long, comfortable home in America because Reagan couldn't be bothered with funding research into 'gay cancer.'

Crack owned the urban world, wracked by the aforementioned social evisceration, for years because Reagan couldn't be bothered. Whole generations of Americans died in misery because he couldn't have gven a damn about their problems.

Saddam Hussein was a creation, in huge part, of Reagan.

Same goes for Osama bin Laden, who along with al Qaeda and the Taliban went from being a side project under Carter to a front-and-center priority that led directly to the attacks of September 11, not to mention the African embassy bombings. Those two embassies were destroyed with Semtex sold to Afghan mujeheddin (nee Taliban and al Qaeda) by the Reagan administration.
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Rick d Israeli
 
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Reply Sun 6 Jun, 2004 03:22 pm
I do not think the death of Reagan is a way to talk about the people who disliked him. The Reagan that died yesterday was the person Reagan, not the politician Reagan. And we should respect that.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sun 6 Jun, 2004 03:26 pm
I have two opinions of Reagan. First, I liked him as and actor, and I liked his personality very much. Second, I grew to hate his politics, but I don't really want to stir that up now.
Nancy I will always admire, no matter what her politics.
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Sun 6 Jun, 2004 05:32 pm
A thank you to Steissd who got it exactly right. Smile
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sun 6 Jun, 2004 06:06 pm
Streisd got it partly right.
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NeoGuin
 
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Reply Sun 6 Jun, 2004 08:18 pm
Re: !
Radikal wrote:
Some disliked Reagan is quite an understament!

Saddam Hussein was a creation, in huge part, of Reagan.

Same goes for Osama bin Laden, who along with al Qaeda and the Taliban went from being a side project under Carter to a front-and-center priority that led directly to the attacks of September 11, not to mention the African embassy bombings. Those two embassies were destroyed with Semtex sold to Afghan mujeheddin (nee Taliban and al Qaeda) by the Reagan administration.


These are the two that many of the Reaganists will forget, or deny!

I'm sure that "The Nation", will have some good stuff on this and many of the other points you made.
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eoe
 
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Reply Sun 6 Jun, 2004 08:30 pm
I never understood the concept of glorifying a man simply because of his death.
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littlek
 
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Reply Sun 6 Jun, 2004 08:38 pm
edgarblythe wrote:
I have two opinions of Reagan. First, I liked him as and actor, and I liked his personality very much. Second, I grew to hate his politics, but I don't really want to stir that up now.
Nancy I will always admire, no matter what her politics.


Edgar got it right.
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Sun 6 Jun, 2004 08:44 pm
I think that's one of many reasons I am not a liberal. I simply don't have it in me to hate that much.
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gustavratzenhofer
 
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Reply Sun 6 Jun, 2004 08:47 pm
I've always loved Reagan. Never missed any of his movies.

Who will ever forget his classic performance in Death comes to Dry Gulch?

http://www.autry-museum.org/museum/images/gene_autry/g_50_lg.gif

Hell of a man.... hell of a cowboy.
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Sofia
 
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Reply Sun 6 Jun, 2004 08:51 pm
...and, boy, could he yodel.

<Also had a good sense of humor>
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doglover
 
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Reply Sun 6 Jun, 2004 08:52 pm
Foxfyre wrote:
I think that's one of many reasons I am not a liberal. I simply don't have it in me to hate that much.


Rolling Eyes
Rolling Eyes
Rolling Eyes
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doglover
 
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Reply Sun 6 Jun, 2004 08:54 pm
My favorite Ronald Reagan movie was "Kings Row". He was soooo good in that.
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doglover
 
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Reply Sun 6 Jun, 2004 08:55 pm
eoe wrote:
I never understood the concept of glorifying a man simply because of his death.


I'm hoping for at least a little glorification when I die eoe. LOL
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gustavratzenhofer
 
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Reply Sun 6 Jun, 2004 08:57 pm
I'll shout, "Glory Be!" when you die, doglover.

Is that what you're looking for?
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doglover
 
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Reply Sun 6 Jun, 2004 09:06 pm
Sure gus, that would be great! Just make sure you're good and drunked up, smell like a cheap french whore and yell real loud, okay? Mr. Green
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onyxelle
 
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Reply Sun 6 Jun, 2004 09:14 pm
I was not even 5 when he became president. Have nothing to say on his politics, but am glad he had family to take care of him in his late years
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sun 6 Jun, 2004 09:17 pm
Foxfyre wrote:
I think that's one of many reasons I am not a liberal. I simply don't have it in me to hate that much.

After so many bitter anti liberal posts, you can suggest only liberals hate?
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