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Obama’s Black Skin Privilege

 
 
vikorr
 
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Reply Mon 10 Jun, 2019 03:44 pm
@coldjoint,
Sure, if that's what he did - I'm not in a position to say if he did or not. But that wasn't the issue, which I quite specifically pointed out - the issue being:

- the multiple allegations that he was a dictator, coupled with the claim that:
- the U.S. only ignored sucht because he was black,
- and as a separate example, the claim that the only reason he got elected was that he was black (it backs up the problem inherent in the first two)

IF he was right that Obama was a dictator, then:

- saying 'hey, are you guys ignoring this because you feel some guilt over his skin colour?" can have some justification...
- though that allowance is a bit like a person saying who is nasty to another because "I'm just telling the truth", has some justification....even though they could achieve the same results with tact.

So history has shown that Obama wasn't a dictator. That 'some' justification goes out the window . And it reverses (in the comparison, the nasty person 'just telling the truth' that is actually not telling the truth - so just being nasty. No justification whatsoever). The only reason to use Obama's skin colour is to try and convince people that he is a dictator. "Open your eyes past his skin colour' (when he's not being what is claimed to be), is attempting to use Obama's skin colour against him...and is therefore, quite unarguably, racist.

And surely you understand that many people voted for him because of his party affiliations, as well as his charisma and oratory (and probably policy, but I don't know about that) ? So saying he only got elected because he was black, is racist.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Mon 10 Jun, 2019 03:49 pm
@vikorr,
Quote:
So saying he only got elected because he was black, is racist.

I never said that. And saying Obama is black is not racist, it is simply a fact and the truth.
vikorr
 
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Reply Mon 10 Jun, 2019 03:53 pm
@coldjoint,
Quote:
I never said that.
Who said you said that? Are we not talking about the video in your OP? Is that not obvious from 'the multiple claims that he was a dictator?
Quote:
And saying Obama is black is not racist, it is simply a fact and the truth.
We agree...but this wasn't in contention. The issue in contention was the guy saying 'Obama only got elected because he was black'

Those were both fairly obvious.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Mon 10 Jun, 2019 04:31 pm
@vikorr,
Quote:
'Obama only got elected because he was black'

Was Trump elected because he was white? I am sure someone could say that but would they be considered racist? The double standards are in play here.
vikorr
 
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Reply Mon 10 Jun, 2019 04:44 pm
@coldjoint,
Alright, so an admission that the comment was racist, but that there are hypothetical double standards at play...hypothetical double standards, because no one on this thread has said "Trump was elected just because he was white"

And yes, saying "Trump was only elected because he was white" would also be racist. Racism goes in each direction. Denying that racism can go in any direction isn't just wilful blindness - it lessens society. Of course an interesting conversation on this topic arises if the society is inherently racist, but that is another discussion.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Mon 10 Jun, 2019 05:08 pm
@vikorr,
Quote:
Racism goes in each direction.

Not on this forum.
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FreedomEyeLove
 
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Reply Mon 10 Jun, 2019 10:35 pm
@vikorr,
Quote:
Well, now that Obama's Presidency is past, we can see:

- he wasn't a dictator


The man killed people with drone strikes.
InfraBlue
 
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Reply Tue 11 Jun, 2019 03:45 pm
@FreedomEyeLove,
FreedomEyeLove wrote:

Quote:
Well, now that Obama's Presidency is past, we can see:

- he wasn't a dictator


The man killed people with drone strikes.

Killing people with drone strikes is not exclusive to dictators.
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vikorr
 
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Reply Tue 11 Jun, 2019 03:47 pm
@FreedomEyeLove,
vikorr wrote:
he wasn't a dictator

FreedomEyeLove wrote:
The man killed people with drone strikes.
I think you might be confusing the meaning of words. Or perhaps you're re-interpreting them in a way that suits some emotional agenda. Either or. The U.S. didn't become a dictatorship, and that's fact.
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Dr Sliptinschit
 
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Reply Mon 6 Jul, 2020 06:50 pm
@maxdancona,
Conservative Republicans can not be white supremacists.

Republicans freed the slaves for a reason.
Dr Sliptinschit
 
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Reply Mon 6 Jul, 2020 06:58 pm
@vikorr,
Obama split families up and put children in cages!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dfrkq3aXcAE8OJh.jpg

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InfraBlue
 
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Reply Mon 6 Jul, 2020 11:32 pm
@Dr Sliptinschit,
Dr Sliptinschit wrote:

Conservative Republicans can not be white supremacists.

Republicans freed the slaves for a reason.

That was before the Republican Party pandered to the Southern conservatives—who include white supremacists—at the time of the burgeoning civil rights movements.
Dr Sliptinschit
 
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Reply Tue 7 Jul, 2020 09:39 am
@InfraBlue,
thack45
 
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Reply Tue 7 Jul, 2020 10:30 am
Lol same ol' A2K
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InfraBlue
 
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Reply Tue 7 Jul, 2020 01:55 pm
@Dr Sliptinschit,
Oh yeah, the Democratic Party has its disreputable history. It's founders would today be solid Republicans. This does not negate the fact that the Republican Party panders to the Southern conservatives and white supremacists.
RABEL222
 
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Reply Tue 7 Jul, 2020 04:55 pm
@coldjoint,
It is just another conservative opinion that don't mean shyt.
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Dr Sliptinschit
 
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Reply Thu 9 Jul, 2020 01:39 pm
@InfraBlue,
The video that racist Democrats don't want you to see.



coldjoint
 
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Reply Thu 9 Jul, 2020 01:50 pm
Quote:
The Myth of Republican Racism

Quote:
These Republican gains came not from the most rural and “deep south” regions, but rather from the newer cities and suburbs. If the new southern Republican voters were white racists, one would have expected Mississippi, Alabama, and Georgia to be the first to turn. Instead, as Gerard Alexander notes in “The Myth of the Racist Republicans,” the turn toward the GOP began in Virginia, North Carolina, Texas, Tennessee, and Florida. Eisenhower did best in the peripheral states. Alexander concludes: “The GOP’s southern electorate was not rural, nativist, less educated, afraid of change, or concentrated in the . . . Deep South. It was disproportionately suburban, middle-class, educated, young, non-native southern, and concentrated in the growth points that were the least ‘Southern’ parts of the south.”

The "Southern Strategy"bullshit are just lies repeated for so long they are taken as truth.
InfraBlue
 
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Reply Thu 9 Jul, 2020 03:46 pm
@coldjoint,
Charen's argument doesn't hold water. So what if Mississippi, Alabama, and Georgia weren't the first to turn. Virginia, North Carolina, Texas, Tennessee, and Florida were all Confederate states themselves. Furthermore, she's being disingenuous with her timelines. Republicans pandered to white racists in the '68 and '72 presidential elections. According to Nixon's political strategist, Kevin Philips, "From now on, the Republicans are never going to get more than 10 to 20 percent of the Negro vote and they don't need any more than that... but Republicans would be shortsighted if they weakened enforcement of the Voting Rights Act. The more Negroes who register as Democrats in the South, the sooner the Negrophobe whites will quit the Democrats and become Republicans. That's where the votes are. Without that prodding from the blacks, the whites will backslide into their old comfortable arrangement with the local Democrats."
coldjoint
 
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Reply Thu 9 Jul, 2020 04:02 pm
@InfraBlue,
Quote:
the sooner the Negrophobe whites

You are just so full of ****. Laughing Laughing Laughing
 

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