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Bush Campaign Seeks Help From Thousands of Congregations

 
 
au1929
 
Reply Thu 3 Jun, 2004 08:16 am
Bush Campaign Seeks Help From Thousands of Congregations

By DAVID D. KIRKPATRICK

Published: June 3, 2004

[]he Bush campaign is seeking to enlist thousands of religious congregations around the country in distributing campaign information and registering voters, according to an e-mail message sent to many members of the clergy and others in Pennsylvania.
Liberal groups charged that the effort invited violations of the separation of church and state and jeopardized the tax-exempt status of churches that cooperated. Some socially conservative church leaders also said they would advise pastors against participating in such a partisan effort.
But Steve Schmidt, a spokesman for the Bush administration, said "people of faith have as much right to participate in the political process as any other community" and that the e-mail message was about "building the most sophisticated grass-roots presidential campaign in the country's history."
In the message, dated early Tuesday afternoon, Luke Bernstein, coalitions coordinator for the Bush campaign in Pennsylvania, wrote: "The Bush-Cheney '04 national headquarters in Virginia has asked us to identify 1,600 `Friendly Congregations' in Pennsylvania where voters friendly to President Bush might gather on a regular basis."
In each targeted "place of worship," Mr. Bernstein continued, without mentioning a specific religion or denomination, "we'd like to identify a volunteer who can help distribute general information to other supporters." He explained: "We plan to undertake activities such as distributing general information/updates or voter registration materials in a place accessible to the congregation."
The e-mail message was provided to The New York Times by a group critical of President Bush.
The campaign's effort is the latest indication of its heavy bet on churchgoers in its bid for re-election. Mr. Bush's top political adviser, Karl Rove, and officials of Mr. Bush's campaign have often said that people who attended church regularly voted for him disproportionately in the last election, and the campaign has made turning out that group a top priority this year. But advisers to Mr. Bush also acknowledge privately that appearing to court socially conservative Christian voters too aggressively risks turning off more moderate voters.
What was striking about the Pennsylvania e-mail message was its directness. Both political parties rely on church leaders — African-American pastors for the Democrats, for example, and white evangelical Protestants for the Republicans — to urge congregants to go the polls. And in the 1990's, the Christian Coalition developed a reputation as a political powerhouse by distributing voters guides in churches that alerted conservative believers to candidates' position on social issues like abortion and school prayer. But the Christian Coalition was organized as a nonpartisan, issue-oriented lobbying and voter-education organization, and in 1999 it ran afoul of federal tax laws for too much Republican partisanship.
The Bush campaign, in contrast, appeared to be reaching out directly to churches and church members, seeking to distribute campaign information as well as ostensibly nonpartisan material, like issue guides and registration forms.
Trevor Potter, a Washington lawyer and former chairman of the Federal Election Commission, said the campaign's solicitation raised delicate legal issues for congregations.
"If the church is doing it, it is a legal problem the church," Mr. Potter said. "In the past, the I.R.S. has sought to revoke and has succeeded in revoking the tax-exempt status of churches for political activity

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dyslexia
 
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Reply Thu 3 Jun, 2004 08:21 am
distribution of campaign literature would constitute violation of IRS regulations for a non-profit church tax exemption-I do believe.
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fishin
 
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Reply Thu 3 Jun, 2004 08:24 am
The church-state argument is a bit of nonsense but if the religious organizations themselves are acting as an arm of a candidates campain they deserve to have their tax-exept status yanked.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 3 Jun, 2004 08:31 am
Obviously, he is using his umbrella as a collection box


http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/afp/20040601/capt.sge.ama30.010604234337.photo00.default-311x380.jpg
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blueveinedthrobber
 
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Reply Thu 3 Jun, 2004 08:33 am
He's going to get a call from Jesus himself if he's not careful..."Hey! Bush! Back Off! I'm working this side of the street!"
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Brand X
 
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Reply Thu 3 Jun, 2004 08:34 am
Does this go for the church stumping Dems too?
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Thu 3 Jun, 2004 08:36 am
Brand X wrote:
Does this go for the church stumping Dems too?

absolutely
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Thu 3 Jun, 2004 09:52 am
Of course it does, Brand X.

Find us some good stories/examples/specific instances on how the democratic party is currently using churches as a distribution platform in the same way the GOP is and you will have countered the argument nicely.

Cycloptichorn
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au1929
 
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Reply Thu 3 Jun, 2004 09:59 am
Sheik Omar Bush has that part of America under his control.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Thu 3 Jun, 2004 10:51 am
Kerry would seek help from the Catholic church, but he isn't really in good standing. The Pope isn't happy with his stance on abortion.

Otherwise, I am sure Kerry's campaign would take money from whatever source it could find.
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blueveinedthrobber
 
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Reply Thu 3 Jun, 2004 10:56 am
McGentrix wrote:
Kerry would seek help from the Catholic church, but he isn't really in good standing. The Pope isn't happy with his stance on abortion.

Otherwise, I am sure Kerry's campaign would take money from whatever source it could find.


but you can't back up your assumption......

I assume you would clean bushs' toilets gratris....but I can't back it up......
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kickycan
 
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Reply Thu 3 Jun, 2004 11:04 am
I am sure I could back up Bush's toilet.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Thu 3 Jun, 2004 11:05 am
Bi-Polar Bear wrote:
McGentrix wrote:
Kerry would seek help from the Catholic church, but he isn't really in good standing. The Pope isn't happy with his stance on abortion.

Otherwise, I am sure Kerry's campaign would take money from whatever source it could find.


but you can't back up your assumption......

I assume you would clean bushs' toilets gratris....but I can't back it up......


...and I would equally assume that you would consume what I clean. But, who cares what you consider to be gourmet. That has nothing to do with what we are talking about.
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blueveinedthrobber
 
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Reply Thu 3 Jun, 2004 11:10 am
Careful bud, if I develop a taste for that gourmet treat, you'd have to go into hiding to save your own life........ :wink:
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Sofia
 
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Reply Thu 3 Jun, 2004 12:50 pm
boo-boo
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Sofia
 
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Reply Thu 3 Jun, 2004 12:51 pm
True story--

During the 1996 elections, I was working in a state hospital, where the majority of employees was black.

One day, I found a pamphlet for Clinton's re-election. On the front, Clinton is photographed with several black religious leaders. The text was so shocking I kept it for a few months. Wish I still had it.

It was one of the most race-baiting, anti-white, anti-conservative pieces of crap I've ever seen.

"They" are trying to take your freedoms,... "They" were never properly defined, but the vitriolic, divisive screed should have been copied for newspapers and shown on TV. The Clinton campaign obviously thought a bunch of racist charges against the GOP was a good way to amass a strong black vote.

The pamphlet practically demanded that any self-respecting black Christian was duty bound to vote for Clinton.

It also asked for donations to the Clinton campaign--as a way to pay back the work he was doing for the black community.

Far worse than anything ascribed to the Bush campaign.


(edited--wrong election year, previously.)
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kickycan
 
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Reply Thu 3 Jun, 2004 12:54 pm
Sofia wrote:

Far worse than anything ascribed to the Bush campaign.


I don't know for sure, but I highly doubt it.
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blueveinedthrobber
 
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Reply Thu 3 Jun, 2004 01:39 pm
Sofia wrote:
boo-boo


Yes Yogi?
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mysteryman
 
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Reply Thu 3 Jun, 2004 08:15 pm
Cycloptichorn wrote:
Of course it does, Brand X.

Find us some good stories/examples/specific instances on how the democratic party is currently using churches as a distribution platform in the same way the GOP is and you will have countered the argument nicely.

Cycloptichorn


How is this for a start?....
http://www.hartford-hwp.com/archives/45c/021.html

Pulpit Politicking prohibited under Federal tax law, says Americans United
Americans United for Separation of Church and State today asked the Internal Revenue Service to investigate two churches for possible violations of the federal tax law's ban on church politicking.

Americans United asserted that the Alfred Street Baptist Church in Alexandria, Va., and the Greater Grace Temple of the Apostolic Faith in Detroit, Mich., engaged in partisan politicking during yesterday's church services by encouraging support for Democratic candidate".

I know its a little old,but here is a specific instance.I can find more if you want,but now you cant say it doesnt happen.
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Sofia
 
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Reply Thu 3 Jun, 2004 08:42 pm
Funny, now that this subject is opened-- Most of the reason blacks are such a voting bloc for Dems has a lot to do with the politicking done in black churches. (Well, not the reason--but a big link is there.)

Odd. Most white churches could be described as GOP-leaning.

Hmmm. Just thinking.
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