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Are there any peaceful muslim nations?

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Ionus
 
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Sun 22 Mar, 2015 04:58 am
@izzythepush,
Ahhh...I would have said that video was against your position . Maybe you should look at it again ?
izzythepush
 
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Sun 22 Mar, 2015 05:05 am
@Ionus,
I didn't watch it. I just assumed layman was attempting to talk sense. I won't make that mistake again.
vikorr
 
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Sun 22 Mar, 2015 05:05 am
@izzythepush,
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The more bigots like you, Oralboy, Vikorr and CJ try to claim all Moslems are like ISIS the more you end up looking like them.
Rolling Eyes Your personal hate still 'forcing' you to lie about my position Izzy? Will you ever stop being a slave to your hate?

It's also very sad.

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izzythepush
 
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Sun 22 Mar, 2015 05:08 am
@Ionus,
Having googled the name she is a moron.

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On Fox, Brigitte Gabriel Revives Myth That Obama Is A Muslim To Attack His Anti-Terrorism Policies


http://mediamatters.org/video/2015/01/13/on-fox-brigitte-gabriel-revives-myth-that-obama/202125
layman
 
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Sun 22 Mar, 2015 05:11 am
@izzythepush,
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I didn't watch it. I just assumed layman was attempting to talk sense
.

I didn't say anything, Izzy-baby. Are you trying to deny what she said (that only 15-25% are judged to be radical extremists)? Where's the lack of "sense," here?
izzythepush
 
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Sun 22 Mar, 2015 05:15 am
@layman,
She also said Obama was a Moslem. I'm not going to lower myself by debating with bigots like you CJ, Oralboy and Vikorr. It gives your stupid and bigoted views a status they do not deserve.

If anybody here doubts you're stupid this is the title of one of your threads.

Quote:
Anyone hear like blues?


If someone has so much difficulty with a four letter word there's no point engaging them in conversation.
layman
 
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Sun 22 Mar, 2015 05:16 am
@izzythepush,

Quote:
On Fox, Brigitte Gabriel Revives Myth That Obama Is A Muslim To Attack His Anti-Terrorism Policies


http://mediamatters.org/video/2015/01/13/on-fox-brigitte-gabriel-revives-myth-that-obama/202125


Quote:
She also said Obama was a Moslem


Kinda strange that if you go to the link you gave, she does NOT say that Obama is muslim, eh?
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layman
 
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Sun 22 Mar, 2015 05:20 am
@izzythepush,
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Anyone hear like blues?


You don't read so good, Izzy, not really surprising that you don't hear so good, either, eh?
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vikorr
 
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Sun 22 Mar, 2015 05:26 am
@izzythepush,
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She also said Obama was a Moslem. I'm not going to lower myself by debating with bigots like you CJ, Oralboy and Vikorr. It gives your stupid and bigoted views a status they do not deserve.


The marks of a bigot:
- namecalling when someone disagrees with you...you do this
- hating others who disagree with you...you do this
- lying about the position of those who disagree with you to make your position look stronger...you do this
- ignoring evidence...you do this

None of that is done by me. We see, from the evidence, who matches the definition of bigot here.

Such hate isn't surprising, though it is sad.
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Ionus
 
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Sun 22 Mar, 2015 05:32 am
@izzythepush,
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Nobody has supported ISIS.
IS has a great deal of support, thats the problem .

What is the main point you want to make in this thread ?
layman
 
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Sun 22 Mar, 2015 05:36 am
@Ionus,
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What is the main point you want to make in this thread ?


Yeah, Izzy, what's your point exactly?

Let me guess....

Is it that all jews should be exterminated?
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izzythepush
 
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Sun 22 Mar, 2015 06:20 am
@Ionus,
When I said nobody had supported ISIS, I meant nobody on this thread. There was no ISIS prior to the invasion of Iraq and the detainees at Guantanamo Bay.

If we want to defeat ISIS we're not going to succeed by attacking all Moslems which is what certain idiots on this thread are doing. I don't want a religious war, it's not one any side can win.
Ionus
 
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Sun 22 Mar, 2015 06:37 am
@izzythepush,
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There was no ISIS prior to the invasion of Iraq
The concept that IS proposes is very old . They want a Sunni state with Sharia Law . They are even in the same geographic location as previous proponents wanted it . The Ba'ath party always had as its goal the unification of Syria and Iraq, in both of which it is the dominant party, but the two dictators in charge only paid lip service . The similarity of the flags of several Middle East countries is based on the belief they will all unite .
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the detainees at Guantanamo Bay.
Had nothing to do with it .
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I don't want a religious war
We have one .
coldjoint
 
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Sun 22 Mar, 2015 10:42 am
@izzythepush,
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There was no ISIS prior to the invasion of Iraq and the detainees at Guantanamo Bay.


Your ignorance about Islam is boundless. You are saying there were no Caliphates before the invasion of Iraq. Right, cowardly and stupid.
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izzythepush
 
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Sun 22 Mar, 2015 11:06 am
@Ionus,
The idea of a caliphate goes back to the beginnings of Islam, and Wahhabism (as practiced in Saudi Arabia) is a very fundamentalist version of Islam. The violence and extremism practiced by ISIS is very new, and did not exist prior to the invasion of Iraq. Even Al Qaida thinks they're too extreme.

Guantanamo Bay, the invasion of Iraq, the one sided approach to Israel/Palestine and the West's support of dictators including the overthrow of democracy in Iran have all helped to nurture radical Islam which is seen by many as the only true and constant opponent of Western hegemony.

We don't have a religious war yet, but the likes of ISIS, Al Qaida, Vikorr, Oralloy and Coldjoint all desperately want one.
vikorr
 
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Sun 22 Mar, 2015 12:22 pm
@izzythepush,
Drunk

You do realise Izzy, that your hate IS the same as IS?

layman
 
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Sun 22 Mar, 2015 12:44 pm
@vikorr,
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You do realise Izzy, that your hate IS the same as IS?


That might be going a little too far. Somehow, I like to think it's not just a product of "hate." It does, however, seem quite obvious that ole Izzy aint too quick on the uptake, though. Not exactly the sharpest tool in the shed, and all that, know what I'm sayin?
vikorr
 
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Sun 22 Mar, 2015 12:46 pm
@layman,
It would only be going too far if you haven't read far enough back in Izzy's posts. He's been 'contributing' here for quite some time.

Izzy can and does engage in fairly intelligent conversation - unless his hate has been triggered. When his hate does surface, his posts tend to descend.
layman
 
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Sun 22 Mar, 2015 12:49 pm
@vikorr,
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It would only be going too far if you haven't read far enough back in Izzy's posts. He's been 'contributing' here for quite some time.


Well, you're right there. I don't really know much about him, other than that he seems anxious to accuse others of doing/being what he does/is.
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