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Realistic Expectations for Iraq

 
 
Reply Mon 31 May, 2004 09:18 pm
This short cut and paste presents a scenario which I find plausible and acceptable-----given the circumstances and the obstacles. Would this be unacceptable to you?

Tilting the Playing Field
By THOMAS L. FRIEDMAN

Published: May 30, 2004




The American public has been treated to such a festival of mea, wea and hea culpas on Iraq lately it could be forgiven for feeling utterly lost. Americans are caught between a president who continues to wax utopian about Iraq and an analytical community that has become consumed by despair. This is no way to run a railroad. There are better ways to think about this problem. A good place to start is by thinking about Russia.

I have a "Tilt Theory of History." The Tilt Theory states that countries and cultures do not change by sudden transformations. They change when, by wise diplomacy and leadership, you take a country, a culture or a region that has been tilted in the wrong direction and tilt it in the right direction, so that the process of gradual internal transformation can take place over a generation.

I believe that history will judge George Bush 41, Mikhail Gorbachev, Brent Scowcroft, James Baker, Helmut Kohl, Margaret Thatcher and François Mitterrand very kindly for the way they collectively took the Soviet Empire, which was tilted in the wrong direction for so long, and tilted it in the right direction, with barely a shot fired. That was one of the great achievements of the 20th century.

Is Vladimir Putin's Russia today a Jeffersonian democracy? Of course not. But it is a huge nation that was tilted in the wrong direction and is now tilted in the right direction. My definition of a country tilted in the right direction is a country where there is enough free market, enough rule of law, enough free press, speech and exchange of ideas that the true agent of change in history ?- which is something that takes nine months and 21 years to develop, i.e. a generation ?- can grow up, plan its future and realize its potential.

Democracy-building is always a work in progress ?- two steps forward, one step back. No one should have expected a utopian transformation of Iraq. Iraq is like every other tribalized Arab state, where democracy is everyone's third choice. Their first choice is always: "My tribe wins and my rivals lose." Second choice is: "My tribe loses, so yours must lose too." Third choice is: "My tribe wins and so do my rivals."

Our hope should be that Iraqis back into democracy, back into that third choice ?- not as a result of reading our Bill of Rights but by reading their own situation and deciding that a pragmatic, power-sharing compromise among themselves is better than endless violence. Democracy will take root in Iraq through realism, not idealism. We did not and cannot liberate Iraqis. They have to liberate themselves. That is what the Japanese and Germans did. All we can hope to do is help them tilt their country in a positive direction so the next generation grows up in an environment where progressive forces and win-win politics are not stymied by a predatory state tilted against them.

"I think this is a good time for sober realism, which means focusing on what is possible in Iraq, and what is the minimum we want from Iraq, not on what we would ideally like in Iraq," notes Michael Mandelbaum, the Johns Hopkins foreign policy expert, whose delightful new book, just out this week, entitled "The Meaning of Sports," contains many parallels between what makes for successful teams and successful countries. "The minimum we want is an Iraq that is reasonably stable, and doesn't harbor terrorists or threaten its neighbors."

As one who believed ?- and still does ?- in the possibility and the importance of tilting the Arab-Muslim world from the wrong directions detailed in the U.N.'s Arab Human Development Reports to the right ones, I detest the politically driven failures of the Bush team in Iraq. In a panic, the Bush team, having lost its exaggerated realist rationale for the war ?- W.M.D. ?- has now gone to the other extreme and offered us an exaggerated idealist rationale ?- that all Iraqis crave freedom and democracy and we can deliver this transformation shortly, if we just stick to it.

We need to rebalance our policy. We still have a chance to do in Iraq the only thing that was always the only thing possible ?- tilt it in a better direction ?- so over a generation Iraqis can transform and liberate themselves, if they want. What might an Iraq tilted in the right direction look like? It would be more religious than Turkey, more secular than Iran, more federal than Syria, more democratic than Saudi Arabia and more stable than Afghanistan.
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Radikal
 
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Reply Mon 31 May, 2004 10:40 pm
A Right Wing Pipedream
There are pipedreams and there is reality.

Full Sovereignty?
Throughout the spring, as hundreds died in the spiraling conflict, as Regime bosses applied their hardcore "anti-terrorist" tortures to innocent bystanders raked up in their occupation nets, as Regime mouthpieces prated endlessly of "liberation" and "sovereignty," Bush viceroy Paul Bremer was quietly signing a series of edicts that will give the United States effective control over the military, ministries -- and money -- of any Iraqi government, for years to come, The Wall Street Journal reports.

Bremer has placed U.S.-appointed "commissions" made up of Americans and local puppets throughout Iraqi government agencies; the ministers supposedly in charge weren't even told of the edicts. These boards "will serve multiyear terms and have significant authority to run criminal investigations, award contracts, direct troops and subpoena citizens," the Journal reports. Any new Iraqi government "will have little control over its armed forces, lack the ability to make or change laws and be unable to make major decisions within specific ministries without tacit U.S. approval, say U.S. officials."


Earlier Bremer edicts laid the Iraqi economy wide open to ruthless exploitation by Bush-approved foreign "investors"; dominance of such key sectors as banking, communications -- and energy -- is already well advanced. The latest dictates aim to ensure that this organized looting goes on, no matter what kind of makeshift "interim government" the United Nations manage to piece together. Bush's plans to build a Saddamite fortress embassy in Baghdad and 14 permanent military bases around the country are designed to provide the knee-breaking "security" for these lucrative arrangements



http://context.themoscowtimes.com/stories/2004/05/21/120.html

* I strongly suspect that sometime in July there will be a mass Uprising of Sunnis, Kurds and Shi'ites calling for the Occupation to end and Multi-Corps to leave Iraq. The US Right Wing Pipedream will be over.
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Adrian
 
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Reply Mon 31 May, 2004 11:12 pm
Good article perception.

Just a small point re. who is doing the tilting.

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I believe that history will judge George Bush 41, Mikhail Gorbachev, Brent Scowcroft, James Baker, Helmut Kohl, Margaret Thatcher and François Mitterrand very kindly for the way they collectively took the Soviet Empire, which was tilted in the wrong direction for so long, and tilted it in the right direction, with barely a shot fired. That was one of the great achievements of the 20th century.


Notice the multinational nature of the names mentioned? Why, the then leader of the USSR is even in there.

That's what I would term "multilateral tilting" and I support the concept.

Who is doing the tilting in Iraq?

MULTI, versus, UNI lateral. That's my main issue.
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Mr Stillwater
 
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Reply Mon 31 May, 2004 11:32 pm
We haven't even begun to 'help' our Arab friends to democracy.....

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But security, although vital, is not enough to ensure stability. That requires reform. And while history provides plenty of examples of the dangers to absolutist regimes of attempting to reform, only that will ensure the long-term survival of the al-Saud.

As things stand, Saudi Arabia provides near laboratory conditions to incubate thousands of bin Ladens. The oil-dominated economy produces few jobs to employ a fast-growing, restless population. Neo-central planning inhibits investment, while getting Saudis into jobs now occupied by millions of foreigners raises costs because locals get paid, on average, three times more. School textbooks drip with religious bigotry, while technology exposes Saudis to the full blast of modernity. The stultifying control of the mosque and political grip of the security services underpin a bloated monarchy.


FT.com Opinion
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perception
 
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Reply Tue 1 Jun, 2004 09:20 am
Adrian

You and others insist on using the politically correct terminology of "multilateralism" vs "unilateral". This to me is idealistic "mumbo jumbo" especially when making really critical "life or death" decisions. Why do you think a corporation has a "CEO"? One person making the final decision??? In some situations, making decision by committee is a slow but sure road to failure. The Bush administration recognition that something was very rotten in the failure of France, Russia and Germany to support us in "liberating" Iraq and the same recognition that the UN was incapable of positive action caught most of the world off guard. Bush kept telling them that America would "go it" alone-----they didn't believe him. They have been embarrassed and exposed as self serving incompetents instead of statesmen serving the global community.

Adrian does it really matter who does the "Tilting" as long as the result is positive even if it is less than what we sought initially.
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Tue 1 Jun, 2004 10:22 am
Yeah, it does matter. That's the whole point.

Did you ever consider that if a country can tilt one way, it can go the other way as well?

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You and others insist on using the politically correct terminology of "multilateralism" vs "unilateral". This to me is idealistic "mumbo jumbo" especially when making really critical "life or death" decisions. Why do you think a corporation has a "CEO"? One person making the final decision??? In some situations, making decision by committee is a slow but sure road to failure. The Bush administration recognition that something was very rotten in the failure of France, Russia and Germany to support us in "liberating" Iraq and the same recognition that the UN was incapable of positive action caught most of the world off guard. Bush kept telling them that America would "go it" alone-----they didn't believe him. They have been embarrassed and exposed as self serving incompetents instead of statesmen serving the global community.


You should perhaps consider changing your name to 'obfuscation.'

Multilateralism vs. unilateralism is not 'mumbo-jumbo' as you put it. It is a very real concept, and an easy one to understand - you don't go picking fights around the world without international support, as you can get in over your head. Which is what has happened to us, look how the US is calling for a mutlinational effort in Iraq these days.


http://uk.news.yahoo.com/040502/325/eso0n.html


These very leaders whgo you call 'self-serving incompetents' are now the people we are asking for help.

You say that decisive action is needed in a 'life or death situation.' I would like you to explain to me how Iraq represented a 'life or death' situation for America, seeing as they couldn't even attack their neighbors successfully with their forces. Otherwise we could have easily waited a few months.

Cycloptichorn
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blueveinedthrobber
 
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Reply Tue 1 Jun, 2004 10:28 am
perception wrote:
Adrian

You and others insist on using the politically correct terminology of "multilateralism" vs "unilateral". This to me is idealistic "mumbo jumbo" especially when making really critical "life or death" decisions. Why do you think a corporation has a "CEO"? One person making the final decision??? In some situations, making decision by committee is a slow but sure road to failure. The Bush administration recognition that something was very rotten in the failure of France, Russia and Germany to support us in "liberating" Iraq and the same recognition that the UN was incapable of positive action caught most of the world off guard. Bush kept telling them that America would "go it" alone-----they didn't believe him. They have been embarrassed and exposed as self serving incompetents instead of statesmen serving the global community.


Adrian does it really matter who does the "Tilting" as long as the result is positive even if it is less than what we sought initially.


The article that starts your thread is very reasonable and would be hard to disagree with. IMO however, you get to this post and expose your intent for the same old same old....propping up bushinc.

Nice try though, and great article.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 1 Jun, 2004 10:44 am
Agreed: nice article, and yes, it does really matter who does the "Tilting".



Adrian wrote:
Why, the then leader of the USSR is even in there.

That's what I would term "multilateral tilting" and I support the concept.


I support this concept as well .... and Gorbachev is seen in Germany as THE main figure (for the falling of the USSR and) the unification (that's why everyone [from conservatives over right liberals and Social-Democrats to the Green] thought, he would spend the rest of his life here).
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perception
 
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Reply Tue 1 Jun, 2004 11:16 am
Mr Stillwater wrote:
We haven't even begun to 'help' our Arab friends to democracy.....

Quote:
But security, although vital, is not enough to ensure stability. That requires reform. And while history provides plenty of examples of the dangers to absolutist regimes of attempting to reform, only that will ensure the long-term survival of the al-Saud.

As things stand, Saudi Arabia provides near laboratory conditions to incubate thousands of bin Ladens. The oil-dominated economy produces few jobs to employ a fast-growing, restless population. Neo-central planning inhibits investment, while getting Saudis into jobs now occupied by millions of foreigners raises costs because locals get paid, on average, three times more. School textbooks drip with religious bigotry, while technology exposes Saudis to the full blast of modernity. The stultifying control of the mosque and political grip of the security services underpin a bloated monarchy.


FT.com Opinion


Good point and an excellent link but please clarify exactly what you propose the US should do now. It would seem to me that all we can do is remain poised to take military intervention in the event the Saudi government requests our assistance.
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