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Size of Universe

 
 
Wilso
 
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Reply Tue 2 Dec, 2014 02:42 pm
@Normano,
Don't engage with Quahog. He's a committed theist. He will draw you into endless posts to prove your claims, then reject them all without understanding a single word, all in favour of his fairytale. Essentially he's a troll. Forums like this are the end point for his type. He's been roundly ignored in his real life, as people realise that he's an unmitigated fuckwit, so now he desperately seeks attention and praise on the web. Don't play the game.
DNA Thumbs drive
 
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Reply Tue 2 Dec, 2014 05:44 pm
@dalehileman,
No as the matter in the universe is expanding outward, according to the big bang theory. However the size of the void into which matter is expanding is undetermined by any means as of yet.
dalehileman
 
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Reply Tue 2 Dec, 2014 06:01 pm
@DNA Thumbs drive,
Quote:
However the size of the void into which matter is expanding is undetermined by any means as of yet.
I was under the impression DNA that there's no void.

Without entailing contradiction or paradox the suggestion that it has existed forever: Big Bang, expansion, halt, Big Crunch. With increasing density increasing instability. At the last instance then we have a tiny spot of infinitesimal size but huge mass; maybe its diameter as dropped to zero when its mass becomes infinite--hence next Big Bang

But this doesn't happen "in" any sort of container. The Universe is whatever is, and there simply is no "outside"
DNA Thumbs drive
 
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Reply Tue 2 Dec, 2014 06:27 pm
@dalehileman,
Then what is the matter of the big bang expanding into? He who knows, and has not been there, should also be able to cure all diseases, as this is far easier than the comprehension of all.
Quehoniaomath
 
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Reply Wed 3 Dec, 2014 03:25 am
@Wilso,
Quote:
Don't engage with Quahog. He's a committed theist. He will draw you into endless posts to prove your claims, then reject them all without understanding a single word, all in favour of his fairytale. Essentially he's a troll. Forums like this are the end point for his type. He's been roundly ignored in his real life, as people realise that he's an unmitigated fuckwit, so now he desperately seeks attention and praise on the web. Don't play the game.


Quit a pity you are saying this without knowing me at all, mate!
committed theist? Calling me a troll? ignored in my life? unmitigated fuckwit? desperately seeks attention and praise on the web?


Wow! Quite some ad hominems and conclusions you are jumping to.
Want to tell me how that came about?
You really are making a fool of yourself here!


Furthermore, I am dead serious and stand behind every word I write here.
I know for sure that tha can't be said about everyone here.

I am also to old to 'play games'.


Man o man , you really have no clue have you!

Please explain why you do this?

I bet you won't do that because actually you can't but I will give it a, very little, try.




(possible a guerilla skeptic this one)
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dalehileman
 
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Reply Wed 3 Dec, 2014 10:05 am
@DNA Thumbs drive,
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Then what is the matter of the big bang expanding into?
DNA, trouble is of course that one can't see this expansion in Mind's Eye. But it's not expanding into anything
DNA Thumbs drive
 
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Reply Wed 3 Dec, 2014 05:08 pm
@dalehileman,
Everything that is expanding, is expanding into something.

Think
Quehoniaomath
 
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Reply Thu 4 Dec, 2014 01:12 am
@DNA Thumbs drive,
Quote:
Everything that is expanding, is expanding into something.

Think


Really?? Are you really sure? Think!
dalehileman
 
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Reply Thu 4 Dec, 2014 10:50 am
@DNA Thumbs drive,
Quote:
Everything that is expanding, is expanding into something.
But why

Here's a case where we should listen to Que

DNA, think about it for a while. Your misunderstanding is very common, as I mentioned, because we can't imagine in our mind's eye its expansion without supposing some sort of void. Yet it's perfectly reasonable, avoiding all sorts of contradiction and paradox, to assume the Universe is all there is, that there's no "outside"
Quehoniaomath
 
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Reply Thu 4 Dec, 2014 12:08 pm
@dalehileman,
And, the Universe is just an hologram!

btw this explains easily the wave-particle problem!
dalehileman
 
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Reply Thu 4 Dec, 2014 01:01 pm
@Quehoniaomath,
Well Que I'm not sure I'd go quite that far
rosborne979
 
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Reply Thu 4 Dec, 2014 01:09 pm
@dalehileman,
dalehileman wrote:
Well Que I'm not sure I'd go quite that far

The idea of a Hologram Universe is currently being tested at the US Fermi Labs.

http://holometer.fnal.gov/index.html
dalehileman
 
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Reply Thu 4 Dec, 2014 02:14 pm
@rosborne979,
Thanks Ros for that link. However it doesn't appear to compare the Universe with a hologram does it

I've understood a hologram to be a 3d photo
Quehoniaomath
 
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Reply Thu 4 Dec, 2014 02:48 pm
@dalehileman,
Quote:
I've understood a hologram to be a 3d photo


No, it is nothing like that,
One very important thing is that any part of the hologram has he wole in it,
So, if you cut out a piece of a hologram, then the whole hologram can be seen in that piece. Hence alternatives like footreflexology and so on work because eacht part consist of the whole.
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Quehoniaomath
 
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Reply Thu 4 Dec, 2014 02:52 pm
http://matrixmastery21.com/images/holographic%20principle/10-04-2013%20you%20are%20a%20hologram.png

http://www.mondolithic.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/Scientific-American-Cover-Are-you-a-Hologram.jpg

http://c300221.r21.cf1.rackcdn.com/you-are-a-hologram-1348610064_b.jpg

And if you look for it there is sooo much more!!

So you see, it isn't that far fetched!

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Quehoniaomath
 
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Reply Thu 4 Dec, 2014 02:54 pm
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Quehoniaomath
 
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Reply Thu 4 Dec, 2014 02:55 pm
http://d.gr-assets.com/books/1347752336l/319014.jpg

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DNA Thumbs drive
 
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Reply Thu 4 Dec, 2014 04:13 pm
@Quehoniaomath,
So what expands into nothing?
dalehileman
 
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Reply Thu 4 Dec, 2014 04:58 pm
@DNA Thumbs drive,
Quote:
So what expands into nothing?
The Universe

However DNA, the term "into" is kind of misleading here because it implies space or location. It doesn't expand into anything, it just expands
DNA Thumbs drive
 
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Reply Thu 4 Dec, 2014 05:50 pm
@dalehileman,
Define the Universe?
 

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