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Please help me identify these artists (British Portraiture/Portraits) - 1600s-1800s

 
 
RiahKW
 
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Reply Thu 9 Oct, 2014 01:29 pm
@Lordyaswas,
Thank you so much! All of this information is fantastic, I appreciate all of the time you've put in. Yes, they are owned by a private collector (who is pretty keen to keep his privacy) but I can definitely confirm the Rokeby family were a long line of barristers (and a judge).

I will absolutely be in contact with the National Trust - it appears as if the portrait I am working on could have been a smaller cropped copy of that work.

Yes, the Beale work was apparently one of the last to be painted in the line, and was the only one that I can find of Daniel before his death.

I'll be in contact with the private collector some more to see if he has any information about the works being at auction. I believe the works were hung in his grandfather's house but I will see if I can get some more exact dates and locations. The 'Arthur Tooth' records will have something about the paintings in there but unfortunately I've been in contact with the Getty (who hold the records) and there is no way to digitise all of them for my perusal. I'm waiting to hear back from the Archivist there about potential researchers I could ask to have a look for me, but it may be some time. An academic in the US had made a searchable database of the first two years of those records but these paintings weren't mentioned at all.

I've been following down the line of wills (of the sitters and their families) to see if any of the paintings were mentioned but so far no luck - it is a way to track the estates though so hopefully I can get some more information there.

@Lordyaswas thanks again so much! You've been a brilliant help!

RiahKW
 
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Reply Thu 9 Oct, 2014 01:46 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
Hi there, thanks for your reply. I'd love to know the history of the frames (I anticipate none are original, including the bottom two) but there are no marks on them either.

Here is the Unknown Lady in her frame - they were photographed all together:
http://i58.tinypic.com/29613ie.jpg
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Lordyaswas
 
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Reply Thu 9 Oct, 2014 01:59 pm
@RiahKW,
You're very welcome.

It's nice to have someone come back and update us like you have.

PS ....Are you anywhere near Balclutha (Otago) ?

I have my own family links stretching down there that I may come and investigate one day.
Nothing as grand as Cottesbrook mind.....more a delapidated chicken farm I am led to believe.

Good luck with your NT hunt.
RiahKW
 
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Reply Thu 9 Oct, 2014 02:03 pm
@Lordyaswas,
Unfortunately not, I'm in the North Island (Wellington) - if you do ever come and investigate your family here Otago is an absolutely beautiful place to spend some time (even the chicken farms!).
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felnun
 
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Reply Wed 27 Jul, 2016 03:10 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
I got one stamped R Davy signed and dated 1843 according to several specialist it have only decorative value
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felnun
 
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Reply Wed 27 Jul, 2016 03:26 pm
@RiahKW,
I am sorry to let you know that those painting only have domestic value only especially the one with C DAVY color man stamp on the back
Like you I bought one a beautiful masterpiece signed ànd date with R DAVY color man stamp on the back but according to Christie's and Bohamas painting specialist it has no real value
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wjware
 
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Reply Sat 3 Sep, 2016 12:40 pm
@RiahKW,
Hi, I am a freelance art provenance researcher from East Sussex !England, I kept an article that was published in the Guardian , which mentioned these paintings , I hope this help's






In an attempt to escape inheritance tax, Sir John's father, Sir James Langham, who died three years ago, had gifted the contents of the Victorian manor house to his estranged wife Lady Marion, 64, who lives in a bungalow in the grounds with her French partner. The estate itself went to his eldest son who lives in the six-bedroom manor with his wife Lady Sarah and their family. Mother and son are no longer on speaking terms and have become embroiled in a public slanging match. Both attended the sale at Slane Castle, Co Dublin, yesterday.
Sir John, who is desperate to keep the collection of paintings, furniture, royal and botanical ephemera together, was trying to buy back some of the pieces. He paid €18,360 (£12,500) for a 19th century portrait by John James Masquerier of his ancestor Sir James Hay Langham. Estimates of the value of the sale reached in excess of €1.5m.
The star of the auction was a portrait of Sir James Langham, the 7th baronet, by the 18th century painter Francis Cotes which trebled its estimate to fetch €300,000. It was bought by Richard Green, a Bond Street art dealer.
Sir John, 43, a web designer, has been quoted as saying he will not speak to his mother for "as long as a I live". The family moved to the 300-acre estate set among woodland and rivers in Co Fermanagh 150 years ago, after selling the family seat of Cottesbrooke Hall in Northamptonshire - which was said to be the inspiration for Jane Austen's Mansfield Park.
The family fortune was earned by the original Sir John who dominated the spice trade and was an ally of Charles II during the Restoration.
A message on the Tempo Manor website yesterday revealed the depth of the rancour: "We are saddened to report that Marion Lady Langham has now removed the contents of Tempo Manor for auction. As custodian of the contents, she feels constrained, for personal financial reasons, to sell these historic family portraits and other artefacts ... These family treasures have been held in trust for generations; their removal means that, tragically, this generation will be the last to enjoy them in their entirety
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